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General Earwa / Re: How was the original Great Ordeal structured before being split up in two?
« on: December 28, 2018, 08:31:33 pm »
Exactly how it was.
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At least it's not 3.5 million freaking words...
There is also "The Chronicles of Narnia" by Clive Staples Lewis, a classic. It's totally safe for an 8-year-old.
That fact that what it shows you is true doesn't mean it isn't a goad though. It being The Goad only speaks to the likely fact that while it shows you a truth, that doesn't have to be The Truth. In other words, it will show almost everyone as Damned, but that doesn't mean no one could be saved.
It's precisely because such a Tekne artifact exists that I think the Progenitors had a theoretical understanding of damnation and the Outside from the Tekne point of view. I don't think it's prophesy, I think it's a scientific theoretical framework supported be experimental work. Since they were able to create the Inverse Fire, which does interface with the Outside, that framework appears to be workable at least to an extent.
Well, we don't really need to get into a debate about if it actually exists or not. The question really is, how determinable and able to be manipulated is our will, generally. Not individually. Of course, any individual is capable of deciding whatever. But, the fact that people are generally predictable and so generally manipulable, must speak to something.
That's part of the problem though. How can we identify when liberalism goes too far? When group identity is more important than personal identity? Where do we stand to get the proper perspective? I think the answer has to be somewhere in the middle, but who can be in the middle and then judge? They'd just be decried as too conservative. That's the problem when everything is too polar, there is no middle to mitigate extremism on either side. But it serves both sides to rip anyone in the middle to shreds because the polarity is the source of power.