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The Unholy Consult / Re: [TUC spoilers] The visions - Not Ajokli?
« on: August 21, 2017, 02:42:05 am »
I wonder if System Resumption would have happened if Kellhus has actually gotten inside. For all we know he might have died like the majority of those who are tossed in.

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General Earwa / Re: [TUC Spoilers] Nascenti of Zaudunyanicon
« on: August 19, 2017, 04:28:03 pm »
That's good to hear, Madness.

I'm very interested in the Kellhus / Ajokli revelation. It's nice to have it confirmed that the Circumfixion was the root of Kellhus' madness and undoing. Was anything else revealed about the nature of the Kellhus / Ajokli relationship?

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General Earwa / Re: [TUC Spoilers] Nascenti of Zaudunyanicon
« on: August 16, 2017, 08:46:05 pm »
Bakker was nonplussed by the name Crabbicus, and he seemed almost offended that we've starting calling the first book of TNG The Crabiqiad.

Yeah, he didn't like that at all... but it's such a good name and consistent with Bakker's words so far about TNG. You can't call it the Sagas, tell us the Crabicus' story might be a whole book, and then not have us use the naming conventions provided to us so far.

I'll bet it's a McCarthy thing: the Boy was to rename Nameless, I suppose.


Hearing Bakker's reactions to this stuff is fascinating to me. I wonder if he's kicking himself for not making things more clear in retrospect, or if he's upset that we have the gall to name and theorize like that.

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News/Announcements / Re: Building Better Community
« on: August 16, 2017, 08:16:51 pm »
I here ya codebread.  Certainly not my intent to make people feel ostracized, and for that, I do apologize.

I was feeling attacked. As if I had somehow betrayed people helping organizing this whole thing. It takes a lot of hours to plan, a lot of hours to coordinate things, time and money to get swag (posters, patches, etc.), etc. etc. etc. And I got upset, because i felt that somehow me spending all this effort therefore makes me owe someone who showed up after the party and was upset we didn't save them cake. I am not a trained monkey, I don't preform on demand, though probably I would for tips :P . Because I felt attacked, I immediately went on the defensive - which was stupid.

Seems a bit strange to immediately go on the attack - calling me names no less - because I didn't do something they wanted.  Again, as if I haven't spent hundreds of hours facilitating this communities existence. Now, I can see how my comment could be read in a way that makes it sound bad. I do. And again, I'm sincerely sorry for that. But, I don't think there is a generous way to interpret Spooky's post, but I'll let them defend their position should they choose too.

Honestly, I understand and sympathize with your position. I co-own a small company and I frequently organize or sit at the helm of various things, so I know the feeling of people being ungrateful and thinking they are owed something. I just wanted to poke you to be better than them, considering you're one of the few who help run this community.

As for the rest of it, I was really just getting at dismissing how difficult it is for some people to go by simply saying, "come next year". Hell, I'm in Boston and I couldn't afford the time or money to make the trip. Of course I'm also not going to bitch and moan if I don't get to see/hear/read what happened that weekend, but I can understand if people feel left out just because they simply had no means to attend. Assuming it's as simple as being willing to go is what's out of touch with reality. I'm really just borrowing an argument from discussions about education for those living in poverty; "just go to college" isn't as easy as it sounds for everyone.

TL;DR No one owes anyone anything, except gratitude for you guys putting the event together and sharing information. Just gotta be nice to each other because there's barely any of us in comparison to other communities.

Edit: Also, yeah, Spooky was more out of line than you were if you ask me. I'm just holding you to a higher standard I guess :P

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News/Announcements / Re: Building Better Community
« on: August 16, 2017, 06:48:18 pm »
I'd like to add to my previous post that, had I actually noticed the comments after the one I quoted, I wouldn't have posted anything because I think it was all cleared up nicely.

I should probably refresh my browser more often before typing something up :)

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General Earwa / Re: [TUC Spoilers] Nascenti of Zaudunyanicon
« on: August 16, 2017, 06:40:16 pm »
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General Earwa / Re: [TUC Spoilers] Nascenti of Zaudunyanicon
« on: August 16, 2017, 03:40:46 pm »
Sorry not current in this thread. Did anyone mention meta-meta-gnostic sorcery yet? Basically Super Saiyan 3.

Is this an actual (theoretical) thing?

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General Earwa / Re: [TUC Spoilers] Nascenti of Zaudunyanicon
« on: August 16, 2017, 02:51:32 pm »
Bakker was nonplussed by the name Crabbicus, and he seemed almost offended that we've starting calling the first book of TNG The Crabiqiad.

He still seemed surprised at the idea of Baby Kellhus and that people read so much into it.

Cnaiur's possession by Ajokli, stumbling blind into the Whirlwind, has been in the plan for decades.

Bakker was genuinely upset when we showed him all the typos in TUC as proof that Overlook is doing a poor job.

This is what I was hoping for in this thread :) Thanks for sharing!

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The Unholy Consult / Re: Zaudunyanicon 2017 Poster/Patch Giveaway!
« on: August 16, 2017, 12:16:35 am »
The Scylvendi have the Heron Spear. Moe Jr. will hand it over to Akka, who will use it on the No-God to no effect. Then Mimara will do whatever she did in Cil-Aujas to defeat it.

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General Earwa / Re: [TUC Spoilers] Nascenti of Zaudunyanicon
« on: August 15, 2017, 07:42:03 pm »
Any theories on why questions about halos are forbidden, besides the obvious lack of clarification around them throughout the series?

Also, what prompted him to say that? Did someone ask about them first or did he simply say "no questions about halos" before the Q&A began?

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General Earwa / Re: [TUC Spoilers] Nascenti of Zaudunyanicon
« on: August 15, 2017, 02:52:22 am »
Were there any notable Freudian slips on Bakker's part about things we aren't supposed to know yet?

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Bakker said that Kellhus is Done. Also, if  I was a Zaudunyanni and suddenly saw my God/Prophet in Hell with me, I would probably recognize at this point that I was duped. Also, Bakker is writing the next series already, SR. It's called The No-God ;)


I don't recall him saying Kellhus is "done", just that he's "dead". He was being very coy about that actually, evading all Kellhus-related questions with "Kellhus is dead". I'd consider Malowebi to be "dead", also. Of course please correct me if he's since said Kellhus is done. I may have missed something.

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The Unholy Consult / Re: [TUC Spoilers] Shauriatas
« on: August 04, 2017, 04:12:55 pm »
Shae is dead, but Shae is not gone, that's why Bakker is being coy.

Same as Kellhus being dead, but Kellhus is not gone.

In the Q&A thread I asked a question about how Bakker defines "Death" in this universe, precisely for this reason. I think I asked too late, though.

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Author Q&A / Re: Unholy Consultation - *SUPER SPOILERIFIC*
« on: August 02, 2017, 12:42:52 am »
Thanks, Madness.

If it's not too late to ask anything with the AMA being tomorrow and all...

How would you define death in the context of TSA's universe? It's something that I've been curious about considering the physics we've seen. Perhaps this is a question with an obvious answer, but I'm curious to hear your thoughts on it. We know that Heaven and Hell (for lack of better words) exist, as well as "Oblivion". We know that when a person "dies" in the physical sense their soul moves on to another place and continues to experience things, good or bad. Is death the act of your soul moving to one of these places (i.e leaving your body permanently), or is death simply related only to a creature's physical form, regardless of where the soul goes (i.e what happened to Malowebi)? Is there a form of soul "death" (moving to Oblivion, perhaps)?

Would Malowebi still be considered "alive" because he has a consciousness (his soul?) tied to the world?



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The Unholy Consult / Re: [TUC Spoilers] Reading the Canon Artifact
« on: August 01, 2017, 09:28:50 pm »
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The Nonmen seek the Absolute" ... "They practice Elision, thinking they can hide themselves from Judgement, and so pass into Oblivion unseen, find absolution in the Absolute. The Dunyain use the same word the Kuniuri inherited from the Nonmen, but enamoured of intellect and reason, they believe it to be a goal ..."

When I read this the first time I had a crackpot theory that the Dunyain were originally created by the Nonmen to aid in their search for Elision/the Absolute.

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