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The White-Luck Warrior / Re: Meppa is X
« on: October 14, 2013, 11:59:10 pm »
  I suspect he is another son of Moenghus, though as to what his role is within the confines of the Thousandfold Thought is obviously still a mystery.  Moe likes those names that begin with 'M', though...  Moenghus, Mallahet, Maithanet... Meppa?

I find it hard to believe that its a coincidence. I suppose it is possible that our 'Meppa' could remember little about his own past, so he chose a famous name from the Cishaurim past.

Also, I have a brief nerdanel on the topic of Moe's kids. I call "The Six Scions of Moenghus" theory (or alternately, with less alliteration, "the six children of Moe"), which is located at this topic: The Maithanet-Inrilatas Conversation

The relevant post is about half way down the first page but I'll repost it here to save you the trouble:


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This was something of a curiosity. Reading carefully (or with bias i guess) it can be seen that much more is going on than what was actually said. What was said and what was read :P

"How many children did grandfather sire?"
"Six," ...
"Were any of them like me?"
A fraction of a heartbeat.
"I have no way of knowing. He drowned them at the first sign of peculiarities."
"And you were the only one that expressed ... balance?"
"I was the only one."


At first glance, not much here. Six kids, drowned all of them cuz they where crazy. Right? Wrong! (mostly crackpot):
The six children of Moenghus. First son was Kellhus which I think most people over looked, and another was Maithanet. That leaves us with 4. I think the remaining children that he "sired" are the 4 that lived. The ones that remained un-drowned.
Look: "were any of them like me?" ... "He drowned them at the first sign of peculiarities."
If Maithanet and the other 4 never expressed signs of peculiarities, then they wouldn't have been drowned. The statement remains truth. Daddy Moe did drown all the crazies. But are those considered true sons? Or just something ... other ... something not quite human. Something not to be counted as among your tribe. A scylivendi woman who gives birth to a white child has not born a true son. Not a true kinsmen. Just something other to be discarded. So the 6 children of Moenghus are the those that remain alive.

Ah, but you say, the last two lines disprove this. He was the only one that expressed balance.
Nay I tell you. Look closer!
"And you were the only one that expressed ... balance?"
"I was the only one."
First of all, balance is not what condemned the children, it was peculiarities. Balance has been substituted here, and this may have allowed Maithanet to lie with truth. None of the remaining children where peculiar, thus left alive, but maybe none of them were balanced. Maybe they excelled in certain fields more than others. A schoolman is not balanced in the ways of combat. The sons or daughters of Moenghus may have been specialized in certain fields, while Maitha could see sorcery, could wield a sword, could speak with a silver tongue. Maybe the most balanced, but not the only one that lived.

The remaining 5 sons of Moenghus walk.

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General Misc. / Re: Disseminating Bakker
« on: October 13, 2013, 07:16:28 pm »
I just picked up TTT at a used books store. It had a cool cover :P

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General Earwa / Re: TSTSNBN
« on: October 10, 2013, 09:35:57 pm »
Maybe I'm just upset because I didn't see it originally :P

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Literature / Re: Ender's Game
« on: October 09, 2013, 11:04:45 pm »
The main differences being that Ender is a kid and Kellhus is a man. Its so much easier to dismiss the mistakes of a child.

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General Earwa / Re: TSTSNBN
« on: October 09, 2013, 10:52:59 pm »
Saying Kellhus is the no-god is like saying the butler did it, without reading the book on why or how he did it, or even if he did it.

Scott refers to it as a cosmological who dunnit? Do you just skip to the last page of a whodunnit?

I don't think what was said was that out of line...  Francis Buck just said it was a knee-jerk reaction...
What do you mean by out of line? I'm trying to outline it's rather like skipping foreplay and trying to jump straight to the orgasm - when it's the journey that's really the bulk of the content, even if you can predict the ending.

Just seemed a bit abrasive.  An uninformed guess and a well thought out hypothesis can come to the same conclusion, unilaterally condemning the answer feels insulting. Thats all.

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General Earwa / Re: TSTSNBN
« on: October 08, 2013, 02:46:28 am »
Saying Kellhus is the no-god is like saying the butler did it, without reading the book on why or how he did it, or even if he did it.

Scott refers to it as a cosmological who dunnit? Do you just skip to the last page of a whodunnit?

I don't think what was said was that out of line...  Francis Buck just said it was a knee-jerk reaction...

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Literature / Re: Ender's Game
« on: October 07, 2013, 09:16:26 pm »
I hope that all of this isn't stripped from the characters in the movie-to-be. It would be disappointing, though not unexpected, if they stripped all the ambiguity and turned it into a humans-conquer-evil action flick.

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General Earwa / Re: TSA related art and stuff.
« on: October 07, 2013, 09:09:21 pm »
I love the stark contrast between the two sranc. As described in the books the creatures are beautiful, or too beautiful, when at rest, but horrifying lunatics when fighting.

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General Earwa / Re: TSA related art and stuff.
« on: October 07, 2013, 03:09:40 am »
trying out a new drawing/painting program.


first try:http://princeofnothing.wikia.com/wiki/File:Nonman_cleric.jpg


opinions welcomed.
I feel like there are a few different styles that clash in that drawing. Still love it though.

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General Misc. / Re: Disseminating Bakker
« on: October 04, 2013, 05:53:25 pm »
Oh yeah sure a publishing house. My degree in chemical engineering and my 3 months experience in consulting will help out tremendously.  8)
Guess we could start some crowd source funding project to help us start out. How much would that cost lol?

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General Misc. / Re: Disseminating Bakker
« on: October 04, 2013, 05:02:01 pm »
I'd be willing to help out. Like ordering some and sending them your way or some such. Let me know.

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Anyway, if you look at the second link, you can find 5 or 6 of each book for around 5 each (including shipping). Though there are 5 books, which will max out your budget at $4 a piece so you'll have to look around, but its a place to start.

Also, amazon might have a couple.

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General Misc. / Re: Disseminating Bakker
« on: October 04, 2013, 04:34:17 pm »
What condition? I bet many can be found in good, but not new, condition for cheap all around the internet. What are you looking for(#, condition, price), and what is Bookmans?

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I like half price books, they are a used books store, and they've got a decent site. The link below has 16 copies of TDTCB for $0.99 each. (not sure about shipping)
http://www.hpbmarketplace.com/The-Darkness-That-Comes-Before-R-Scott-Bakker/book/8033202?qsort=p&matches=203&cm_sp=works*listing*buyused

Edit. Edit.
I like this site as well. Its a bit search engine that looks through a bunch of sites and compares prices for you. Saves time when buying text books, but i'm sure it can be used to any book. Here is the search result for  R. Scott Bakker:
http://booksprice.com/compare.do?inputData=R+Scott+Bakker&Submit2.x=-896&Submit2.y=-421&Submit2=Search&searchType=theAuthorName

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General Earwa / Re: TSA related art and stuff.
« on: October 04, 2013, 03:41:46 pm »
Amazing stuff, Som.

i added a couple of things if anyone wants to check them out:

]http://princeofnothing.wikia.com/wiki/File:Picture_307.jpg]

Your drawing make me happy. Keep 'em coming!

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damn it, Jax stole my thunder lol

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The White-Luck Warrior / Re: What is the No God?
« on: October 04, 2013, 12:35:16 pm »
Really? I guess he did all the rabble rousing, but surely they Gods arn't so blind as to think he was the cause of all the death... Could they see him use the heron spear? Wonder what he would have been shoot at. If you couldn't see NG then I guess it would look like someone shot a giant beam of light which created some kind of terrible plague.

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