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General Earwa / How would Cishaurim train themsevles?
« on: January 23, 2015, 07:07:48 am »
Greetings.  This is my first post here and I wanted to invite people to speculate on how the Cishaurim may train themselves.  Some of the clearest information is found in an interview Bakker did for Pat's fantasy hotlist here:

http://fantasyhotlist.blogspot.com/2011/07/r-scott-bakker-interview-part-2.html

where Bakker explains:

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Everything comes down to meaning in Eärwa. Where sorcery is representational, utilizing either the logical form (as with the Gnosis) or the material content (as with the Anagogis) of meaning to leverage transformations of reality, the Psukhe utilizes the impetus. Practitioners of the Psukhe blind themselves to see through the what and grasp the how, the pure performative kernel of meaning–the music, the passion, or as the Cishaurim call it, the ‘Water.’ As a contemporary philosopher might say, the Psukhe is noncognitive, it has no truck with warring versions of reality, which is why it possesses no Mark and remains invisible to the Few.
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This statement also seems to suggest the Cishaurim hold to a process ontology as opposed to the substance ontology of say the Gnosis - a sorcery that turns upon the purity of meanings begotten from abstract logical forms (the end result is the meaning of the form as opposed to the Cishaurim holding the very experience of meaning itself to be desired primarily).

But one has to wonder how one would train for this sort of power.  What exercises would contribute to feeling meaning more intensely?  The first thing to come to my mind is the primacy of the Solitary God for the Cishaurim, who remember are priests as much as or even more than they are sorcerers.  Their art has no mark specifically because it (assumedly) does not overwrite the real with abstraction or analogy, but instead brings the potential meanings already present to a screeching, out of body present.  In other words its almost as if their souls are made into a sort of topos and they don't carry or release the water so much as becoming willing vessels for it.  Their souls then could be understood as fissures to the outside.

So certainly being cast into the desert after being newly blinded might work, but I'm having trouble coming up with decent ideas.  Anyone?

Also if this has been discussed elsewhere please let me know where.

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