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"His screech pealed through the derelict halls, filled the very earth.
And he laughed, thinking of the final swazond he would cut into his throat. One last thought too many ... See! See!
He cackled with grief.
He knelt over his lover's corpse - for how many heartbeats, he would never know. Then, just as the sorcerous light began to fade, a cool hand fell upon his cheek. He turned and saw Serwe ... For her instant her face cracked, as though gasping for air. But then it was seamless once again. Seamless and perfect.
Yes. Serwe ... The first wife of his heart.
His proof and prize.
Absolute darkness engulfed them" (TTT, p 485-486).
You didn't have to spoiler tag that, Conditioned, though thanks for the courtesy. It's within this book's pages, after all.
Your guess, theory, and rantings are as good as anyone's. I know, I base my own conclusions on an interview by Bakker - can't remember which one but a number are in the Interviews & Articles (http://secondapocalypse.forumer.com/interviews-articles-t1228646.html) thread - in which he says that Cnaiur's arc was finished with the PON.
Quote from: MadnessI know, I base my own conclusions on an interview by Bakker - can't remember which one but a number are in the Interviews & Articles (http://secondapocalypse.forumer.com/interviews-articles-t1228646.html) thread - in which he says that Cnaiur's arc was finished with the PON.
a feint within a feint within a feint. Perhaps.
yeah, ultra vires statements of authors are relatively valueless in comparison to the text itself. that may be RSB's reading (or it may be a genuflective feint, as above), but if the textual evidence doesn't conclusively rule it out, there's nothing to halt readerly substitutions of a surviving CuS into the text in the role of meppa, the NG, whatever. it may appear more or less crazy after a certain point to continue to insist on him being alive, i.e., less than persuasive--but until we get the corpse, why be dogmatic about it?
Lol, solo... I think it'd seem cheap if Cnaiur was suddenly back, motivated by an equal hard-on for Kellhus.
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agreed. it'd be like giving stiffler his own movie.
Lmao. He made some recovery as a human in Reunion.
Quote from: sologdinyeah, ultra vires statements of authors are relatively valueless in comparison to the text itself. that may be RSB's reading (or it may be a genuflective feint, as above), but if the textual evidence doesn't conclusively rule it out, there's nothing to halt readerly substitutions of a surviving CuS into the text in the role of meppa, the NG, whatever. it may appear more or less crazy after a certain point to continue to insist on him being alive, i.e., less than persuasive--but until we get the corpse, why be dogmatic about it?I would mention that Cnaiur presumably suicides by cutting a swazond across his throat.
in the text prior to this, Cnaiur attempts--but is unsuccessful at achieving--suicide by cutting a swazond across his throat.
Is this foreshadowing?
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in the text prior to this, Cnaiur attempts--but is unsuccessful at achieving--suicide by cutting a swazond across his throat.
Is this foreshadowing?
He isn't known for making the same mistake twice. Certainly this time he wouldn't miss. Though third time is the charm so perhaps he has one left.
see, he hit his peak with the fucking-the-ground bit. it was a ritual yatwerian offering. he accordingly impregnated mother earth, which later gave birth to WLW, who will avenge the world. w00t!
Lol, that always stuck with me too, solo. Though, your descriptive colouring is primo!
On further thought I think he was reconsidering upon seeing Serwe, but The Thing Called Serwe is a Skin Spy that just watched an act of terrible violence, had just finished its mission, and was horny as hell. Meanwhile, Cnaiur is now expendable.
The Thing Called Serwe felt like celebrating, and Cnaiur died screaming.
Well he lives on as a level 90 druid in world of warcraft, just finished levelling him last night. I'm going to guide him to happier times as my miner and jewelcrafter.
This is fan fiction cnaiur though, not the real one, he is terrifying.
Well he lives on as a level 90 druid in world of warcraft, just finished levelling him last night. I'm going to guide him to happier times as my miner and jewelcrafter.
This is fan fiction cnaiur though, not the real one, he is terrifying.
Should have been a death knight for accuracy ;)
Not that I should talk, since my death knight's name alludes to Three Seas magery.
Well he lives on as a level 90 druid in world of warcraft, just finished levelling him last night. I'm going to guide him to happier times as my miner and jewelcrafter.
This is fan fiction cnaiur though, not the real one, he is terrifying.
Should have been a death knight for accuracy ;)
Not that I should talk, since my death knight's name alludes to Three Seas magery.
My DK is called Nilgiccas :-[
Gotta represent Earwa in every mmo I play. I love it when some of the main character names are taken, then I know there is someone else out there.
Yeah Kellhus did a lot more than Conquer lands and fight wars in the 20 years between the books. I bet be plumbed the depths of many secrets, including what was left by his father. We might not know Moenghus Sr. fate, but Kellhus certainly does. Or, at least, he knows if he survived his encounter with Cnaiur and the skin-spies.
I've wondered about this. Not sure where this comment belongs, but what the hell. Kel and sons wear nimil armor, stuff he must have found in dear old dad's former abode. I used to think he may have struck some kind of clandestine treaty with some nonmen, but it's more likely he found the stuff in the mansion. Anyway, in TWLW, Fanayal is described as wearing nimil chain, as well. Stuff must be just laying around for anyone to use. Unless... Fanayal is allied with Kellhus. Or he's a mole, like the priestess of Yatwer was. Same thing either way: all part of TTT and Kel's manipulations. More useless speculation.
Yeah Kellhus did a lot more than Conquer lands and fight wars in the 20 years between the books. I bet be plumbed the depths of many secrets, including what was left by his father. We might not know Moenghus Sr. fate, but Kellhus certainly does. Or, at least, he knows if he survived his encounter with Cnaiur and the skin-spies.
I've wondered about this. Not sure where this comment belongs, but what the hell. Kel and sons wear nimil armor, stuff he must have found in dear old dad's former abode. I used to think he may have struck some kind of clandestine treaty with some nonmen, but it's more likely he found the stuff in the mansion. Anyway, in TWLW, Fanayal is described as wearing nimil chain, as well. Stuff must be just laying around for anyone to use. Unless... Fanayal is allied with Kellhus. Or he's a mole, like the priestess of Yatwer was. Same thing either way: all part of TTT and Kel's manipulations. More useless speculation.
That's another thing. The Serwe skin-spy would have either set those captive ones free or killed them. He/she would not have left them hanging around like they were, Imo. Maybe Moe had others penned elsewhere...
I've wondered about this. Not sure where this comment belongs, but what the hell. Kel and sons wear nimil armor, stuff he must have found in dear old dad's former abode. I used to think he may have struck some kind of clandestine treaty with some nonmen, but it's more likely he found the stuff in the mansion. Anyway, in TWLW, Fanayal is described as wearing nimil chain, as well. Stuff must be just laying around for anyone to use. Unless... Fanayal is allied with Kellhus. Or he's a mole, like the priestess of Yatwer was. Same thing either way: all part of TTT and Kel's manipulations. More useless speculation.
Thats an interesting detail. Was nimil worn by anyone before Kellhus was AE? It is possible that Fanayal simply found his own set after becoming aware of the Mansion outside Shimeh. Though it is equally likely, if not more so, that Kellhus furnished all of his Generals (or his Kahit [I can never spell that word]) so as to provide them with a bit of extra protection when he wasn't around.
Can't rule out the possibility of Kellhus raiding other abandoned mansions.
Bakker is a D&D gamer - Kellhus definitely raided him some Earwa. Lmao. I'd like to see Kellhus' stats at the end of the First Holy War as compared to the start of TJE.lmao yes. All good things. Kellhus was doing some hardcore powerleveling.
BTW, should I mental-pronounce your name as cure-than or something like cure-a-thahn or something else?
Lmao...BTW, should I mental-pronounce your name as cure-than or something like cure-a-thahn or something else?
Love that Curethan's name gets so much issue ;).
@ Curethan - HAHA!!! I LOVE IT!!! Just as the dwarves delved to deep, so did the Nonmen! Hell is the hole dug too deep. :)
BTW, should I mental-pronounce your name as cure-than or something like cure-a-thahn or something else?
@ Curethan - HAHA!!! I LOVE IT!!! Just as the dwarves delved to deep, so did the Nonmen! Hell is the hole dug too deep. :)
BTW, should I mental-pronounce your name as cure-than or something like cure-a-thahn or something else?
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Wikipedia says the original Zelda was released in 1986. Thats nearly 30 years ago :P. One could have played the first release in their 20's and be well into their 50's at this point.
"Old" is a term I'll not define for anyone, but considering anyone under 60 has at least a decent chance of playing the game, and considering that the average lifespan is about 80, there is a halfway decent chance that people who have lived out 75%+ of their lifespan have played at least 1 Zelda game.
When I'm on a plane trip, my favorite time killing activity is using my DS to play the original legend of zelda and seeing if I can beat the game before we land.