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Title: [TGO/TUC Spoilers]The Boy, Crab Hand
Post by: Sausuna on August 16, 2017, 04:11:43 pm
I had an off-hand thought. From what I recall, Kellhus' grandson was considered defective by the Dunyain (correct me if I'm misremembering). Did it ever outline what his defect was? Do we just assume it is his hand? I can't recall the details for the life of me.


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Title: Re: The Boy, Crab Hand
Post by: Madness on August 16, 2017, 04:17:15 pm
I had an off-hand thought. From what I recall, Kellhus' grandson was considered defective by the Dunyain (correct me if I'm misremembering). Did it ever outline what his defect was? Do we just assume it is his hand? I can't recall the details for the life of me.

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Title: Re: The Boy, Crab Hand
Post by: Somnambulist on August 16, 2017, 04:34:10 pm
My impression:
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Title: Re: The Boy, Crab Hand
Post by: Redeagl on August 16, 2017, 04:36:40 pm
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Title: Re: The Boy, Crab Hand
Post by: ThoughtsOfThelli on August 16, 2017, 04:42:50 pm
My impression:
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What I understood from TGO was very much the same, though I wonder
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Title: Re: The Boy, Crab Hand
Post by: Somnambulist on August 16, 2017, 04:49:26 pm
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What I understood from TGO was very much the same, though I wonder
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Title: Re: The Boy, Crab Hand
Post by: Madness on August 16, 2017, 04:52:38 pm
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Title: Re: The Boy, Crab Hand
Post by: ThoughtsOfThelli on August 16, 2017, 05:12:12 pm
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I suppose that's possible, yes, hadn't really thought of it that way. :)
Title: Re: [TGO/TUC Spoilers]The Boy, Crab Hand
Post by: Wilshire on August 17, 2017, 01:22:56 pm
I had an off-hand thought.
lmao with the hand puns.
Title: Re: [TGO/TUC Spoilers]The Boy, Crab Hand
Post by: Sausuna on August 17, 2017, 01:34:20 pm
I had an off-hand thought.
lmao with the hand puns.
Entirely unintentional. Also, thanks for the edit.
Title: Re: [TGO/TUC Spoilers]The Boy, Crab Hand
Post by: Wolfdrop on September 04, 2017, 10:21:56 am
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that the text says "lopped" indicating that they were cut off at some point rather than being a case of ectrodactyly.
Title: Re: [TGO/TUC Spoilers]The Boy, Crab Hand
Post by: TaoHorror on September 04, 2017, 07:01:05 pm
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Title: Re: [TGO/TUC Spoilers]The Boy, Crab Hand
Post by: Cynical Cat on September 17, 2017, 08:01:18 am
Crabicus's mental abilities seem to be on the lower end of the Dunyain scale (he catches on pretty quick, but he's not good at deception) and that's why he was suspected of being defective.  Remember he hadn't been declared Defective yet, but he was probably developing slower than he should have (these are the Dunyain, of course they would track childhood development) and so they were suspecting he would turn out to be defective.  He's clearly a phenomenally talented boy by reasonable standards, but the Dunyain care about chasing the Absolute.
Title: Re: [TGO/TUC Spoilers]The Boy, Crab Hand
Post by: Simas Polchias on July 11, 2018, 06:46:17 pm
Did it ever outline what his defect was?

My main bet is... it's a biggest, reddest herring in the whole series. Boy have a perfectly normal hand, nothing to worry about. It's just that late duniyain at last got in some positive-feedback mistake because of their advanced body-reading skill and mistreated the impression.

Or -- he is as much advanced duniyain to Koringhus as Koringhus was to Kellhus and thus pragmas were unable to see his superiority, just like with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integer_overflow error. They saw him as flawed because he stepped over to somewhere where they will never ever be capable of walking at all.
Title: Re: [TGO/TUC Spoilers]The Boy, Crab Hand
Post by: MSJ on July 12, 2018, 07:45:48 pm
I always thought that his hand was hurt during the fighting with the Sranc. And, I agree with Simas, they thought him defective for some other reason. I could be wrong about the hand, but I don't remember it ever being stated as that was the reason for him being defective.

I am very excited to read about him, and his POV of the world as an untrained Dûnyain. I think it might be the case that he is on a higher level than Koringhus and that they never noticed it because he was thought defective. It's great that he's basically superhuman, but doesn't have the outlook on life like other Dûnyain, the Logos and all that.