[What Came Before]

That would be interesting... Again, I don't think Kellhus (read anyone) actually understands the Third Sight. I'm actually convincing myself its a wildcard he's not expecting.

It also makes you steam in the rain, Callan . +1 for Visual Metaphor.

[What Came Before]

I had meant before his blinding, of course!

[What Came Before]

I meant the images you conjured in my mind, Callan. +1 for Iyokus the Cishaurim though.

[mrganondorf]

I'm hoping we get to see the hangover when Akka and Mimara run out.

Also, if the Consult want to coerce Ioyokus (and any other sorcerers on chanv) they just need to steal/destroy whatever supply came with the Great Ordeal.  Can't think that Kellhus wouldn't foresee and prepare for that though.

Who knows, maybe an important part of TUC will hinge on who can provide what drug at x price?  The spice must flow!

@ Curethan - Like the idea about Kellhus having the GO eat sranc to better possess them/possess Mog.  Cool!

@ lockesnow - The idea of an imprisoning an Inchoroi to produce chanv--that's really interesting.  If it didn't seem that the work was bent on only having 2 left, there could be all kinds of possibilities.  Would have been neat to stumble across a decrepit old, chained Inchoroi in Cil-Aujus.  Maybe they would still have them in the basement of Ishterebinth?

[mrganondorf]

It seems odd that Cleric has been saving Cujara for all these years.  If qirri offers no advantage to a nonman, there must have still been several opportunities to use it before the slog of slogs.  It's such a precious substance and it seems that the main thing is that Akka and Mimara get it.

[Wilshire]

It seems odd that Cleric has been saving Cujara for all these years.  If qirri offers no advantage to a nonman, there must have still been several opportunities to use it before the slog of slogs.  It's such a precious substance and it seems that the main thing is that Akka and Mimara get it.

Maybe Kellhus found a bag of ashes laying in some ruins, and started asking around about it. Once he found out what it was and what it could do, he planted it on Nil'Giccas for the Slog.

[locke]

Cleric speaks to a statue of Cujuara Cinmoi in Cil Aujus, I presumed he took the ashes from the statue, and that the statue was a grave marker/fancy ass crematorium vase.

[mrganondorf]

Cleric speaks to a statue of Cujuara Cinmoi in Cil Aujus, I presumed he took the ashes from the statue, and that the statue was a grave marker/fancy ass crematorium vase.

Oh yeah, I bet this is it.  But it's maybe a little strange that they've sat undisturbed for so long.

[Cüréthañ]

He might have stashed them there himself earlier.  He has spent a lot of time there over the ages.

[mrganondorf]

If the effectiveness of qirri depends on how awesome the nonman was, there are only a few left to burn and snort that could be grouped with Nil'giccas and Cujara.

[Cüréthañ]

Normally the nonmen bury their dead.  They only burn their greatest heroes.

[mrganondorf]

Normally the nonmen bury their dead.  They only burn their greatest heroes.

Kellhus is going to kill Mekeritrig at Dagliash and snort him all the way to Golgotterath.

[Wilshire]

Normally the nonmen bury their dead.  They only burn their greatest heroes.

Kellhus is going to kill Mekeritrig at Dagliash and snort him all the way to Golgotterath.

A step further:
Kellhus' main reason for wanting the Nonmen is for Qirri production so he can make an army of super-magi. Its an added bonus that the Quya will not oppose him, but not the most important reason. Any of the "great" Nonmen that join the Ordeal will slowly disappear, and those that are not yet "great" will be positioned in battles to achieve such statuses before they too are whisked away and burned to ash.

Kellhus would certainly not be opposed to substance abuse if the benefits outweighed the long term drawbacks.
Akka and the Skin-eaters were Kellhus' experiment to determine/confirm what physical and psychological effects result from both short and long-term qirri exposure.

He hopes to have an army of Mandati and Swayli that can all use the metagnosis, and qirri is his only hope to achieve this.

[SilentRoamer]

Maybe some of the Nonmen will be willing to be burnt, who knows what sways the minds of the Intact? Thinking about how little we know of the Nonmens overall motives.

[Wilshire]

True. Maybe the Nonman understand Kellhus' motives.

Perhaps Dagliash holds a qirri horde?