The Second Apocalypse

Earwa => General Earwa => Topic started by: BeardFisher-King on April 17, 2017, 02:24:00 am

Title: Self acclaimed grammar police
Post by: BeardFisher-King on April 17, 2017, 02:24:00 am
After seeing the game of thrones show go to shit in 2 seasons I don't think I would want to see a PON show. Plus they would Norsirai-wash everyone which would take the eastern feel of the series.

Nah think of it this way. The show isn't for the fans. its to raise capital to support Bakker writing more Earwa and other stories. Even if it becomes a clusterfuck after 1 episode, the sale of the rights would have raised enough capital to produce at LEAST 1 more book, if not a whole trilogy.

You, the original fan, lose nothing - but gain the world.
If a fan was tempted and saw it..... They will 100% lose their soul.

Fixed Wilshire's grammar.....cause it was buggin' me! (Yeah, I'm THAT guy.......)
Title: Re: Self acclaimed grammar police
Post by: Wilshire on April 17, 2017, 01:06:58 pm
I disagree with your purported 'correction'.
Title: Re: Self acclaimed grammar police
Post by: BeardFisher-King on April 17, 2017, 01:21:37 pm
I disagree with your purported 'correction'.

Well, the subject of the sentence is "you", so it should read "you, ... , lose nothing". I think the phrase "the original fan" is a subordinate clause.

No offense, I hope,  W.
Title: Re: Self acclaimed grammar police
Post by: Wilshire on April 17, 2017, 02:37:09 pm
Not at all - but I'm no wordsmith, and your efforts of enlightenment are wasted :) .
Title: Re: Self acclaimed grammar police
Post by: BeardFisher-King on April 17, 2017, 04:57:05 pm
The subjunctive mood....Father, it is too far.  :)
Title: Re: Self acclaimed grammar police
Post by: Wilshire on April 17, 2017, 06:20:04 pm
That one does wrankle a bit. It's still not very clear to me though lol, sorry.
I'll split this off into a new topic so you can continue to educate me ;)
Title: Re: Self acclaimed grammar police
Post by: Redeagl on April 17, 2017, 07:49:19 pm
BFK is a Judge.
Title: Re: Self acclaimed grammar police
Post by: MSJ on April 17, 2017, 07:52:38 pm
BFK is a Judge.

A Nazi. Grammar Nazi, that is.
Title: Re: Self acclaimed grammar police
Post by: BeardFisher-King on April 18, 2017, 12:29:02 am
OK.  If you were to write, "The original fan loses nothing, but gains the world.", that would be correct. If you replace "the original fan" with "you", you are moving from third person to second person, and therefore the verb form changes from "loses" and "gains" to "lose" and "gain".

Now, in your sentence, you write, "You, the original fan, loses nothing -- but gains the world." A sentence can only have one subject, and in this sentence, the subject is "you". "The original fan" is a descriptive clause that refers to the subject, "you", and so the sentence should read, "You, the original fan, lose nothing -- but gain the world."

Hope that's helpful. Thanks for starting a new thread. You moderators rock!

BFK is a Judge.

A Nazi. Grammar Nazi, that is.

Guilty as charged, gentlemen.
Title: Re: Self acclaimed grammar police
Post by: Wilshire on April 18, 2017, 01:24:48 pm
lol, thanks for the help. I do strive for communicative clarity, but I think this falls under the scope of pedantry. I, oft accused to being a pedant myself, can at least commiserate with your affliction... We all have our own demons.

Follow up question: Is the sentence still correct without 'you' up front (leaving the rest of the corrections as-is)?

You moderators rock!
It's been a long time since we've had to do any moderating - I don't accept the compliment ;) . Nonetheless, I appreciate the sentiment.
Title: Re: Self acclaimed grammar police
Post by: BeardFisher-King on April 18, 2017, 01:50:06 pm
lol, thanks for the help. I do strive for communicative clarity, but I think this falls under the scope of pedantry. I, oft accused to being a pedant myself, can at least commiserate with your affliction... We all have our own demons.

Follow up question: Is the sentence still correct without 'you' up front (leaving the rest of the corrections as-is)?

If you had eliminated "you", your original sentence would have been grammatically correct. IOW, the following sentence is correct: "The original fan loses nothing -- but gains the world."

Just about all discussion about grammar could be classified as pedantry. As you say, demons.....thanks for your commiseration.
Title: Re: Self acclaimed grammar police
Post by: Wilshire on April 18, 2017, 01:59:54 pm
That gave me some clarity. The use of both threw me off, disguising the subject from myself.


Wouldn't 'classified as pedantic', rather than 'pedantry', be more correct? - lol.
Title: Re: Self acclaimed grammar police
Post by: BeardFisher-King on April 18, 2017, 02:42:54 pm
You moderators rock!

It's been a long time since we've had to do any moderating - I don't accept the compliment ;) . Nonetheless, I appreciate the sentiment.
Not a moderator? Then, as Malowebi said to Kellhus, "What are you?"
Wouldn't 'classified as pedantic', rather than 'pedantry', be more correct? - lol.
<heavy sigh> Now we're getting deep in the grammatical forest, W. I think you are correct. I should have written "classified as examples of pedantry".

Always one thought too many, Wilshire!
Title: Re: Self acclaimed grammar police
Post by: Wilshire on April 18, 2017, 02:52:19 pm
You moderators rock!

It's been a long time since we've had to do any moderating - I don't accept the compliment ;) . Nonetheless, I appreciate the sentiment.

Not a moderator? Then, as Malowebi said to Kellhus, "What are you?"

Oh, I am a moderator, I just rarely do any real, actual moderating.

Wouldn't 'classified as pedantic', rather than 'pedantry', be more correct? - lol.
<heavy sigh> Now we're getting deep in the grammatical forest, W. I think you are correct. I should have written "classified as examples of pedantry".

Always one thought too many, Wilshire!
Lmao, I know where I'm going.
Conversations about grammar so quickly dissipate into meaninglessness for this reason. They become 'gotcha' scenarios and neither party is really paying attention. Just messing around.
In reality I'm glad you took the time to articulate why there was a mistake and for what reasons the correction was correct :) .
Title: Re: Self acclaimed grammar police
Post by: BeardFisher-King on April 18, 2017, 04:06:16 pm
I think sincere men of good will can discuss any subject civilly and productively. Well, maybe not music.....😊. But getting heated over grammar....well, maybe only on a forum devoted to a writer. Cheers, one and all!
Title: Re: Self acclaimed grammar police
Post by: Redeagl on April 18, 2017, 04:28:56 pm
I think sincere men of good will can discuss any subject civilly and productively. Well, maybe not music.....😊. But getting heated over grammar....well, maybe only on a forum devoted to a writer. Cheers, one and all!
Pretty sure that dosen't include me  :P
BTW,Grammar and kilogrammar.
Title: Re: Self acclaimed grammar police
Post by: BeardFisher-King on April 18, 2017, 04:41:49 pm
No puns on the grammar thread, Redeagl, IF you please.
(kilogrammar.....damn, that's a good one!)
Title: Re: Self acclaimed grammar police
Post by: Redeagl on April 18, 2017, 04:46:07 pm
No puns on the grammar thread, Redeagl, IF you please.
(kilogrammar.....damn, that's a good one!)
Inverse Fire you please?!!
Title: Re: Self acclaimed grammar police
Post by: Wilshire on April 18, 2017, 04:47:50 pm
IF was likely meant to simply be 'if' but fully capitalized for emphasis, rather than an acronym.
Title: Re: Self acclaimed grammar police
Post by: Redeagl on April 18, 2017, 04:50:29 pm
IF was likely meant to simply be 'if' but fully capitalized for emphasis, rather than an acronym.
That was a..... PUN!
Title: Re: Self acclaimed grammar police
Post by: BeardFisher-King on April 18, 2017, 04:53:08 pm
<heavy sigh>
Title: Re: Self acclaimed grammar police
Post by: Redeagl on April 18, 2017, 05:00:38 pm
<heavy sigh>
Let me hold it with you. Here you go, now it's a light sigh!
Title: Re: Self acclaimed grammar police
Post by: Wilshire on April 18, 2017, 05:04:14 pm
IF was likely meant to simply be 'if' but fully capitalized for emphasis, rather than an acronym.

This guy knows ^.

IF was likely meant to simply be 'if' but fully capitalized for emphasis, rather than an acronym.
That was a..... PUN!

Oh, I know.

<heavy sigh>

Like this guy.

<heavy sigh>
Let me hold it with you. Here you go, now it's a light sigh!

Not as good as kilogrammar, but I still smiled.
Title: Re: Self acclaimed grammar police
Post by: BeardFisher-King on April 18, 2017, 05:12:53 pm
Wilshire,  what was that dictum of Chekhov's? If a pun appears in the first act....

This thread sure went to hell quickly.  ;)
Title: Re: Self acclaimed grammar police
Post by: Redeagl on April 18, 2017, 05:13:37 pm
IF was likely meant to simply be 'if' but fully capitalized for emphasis, rather than an acronym.

This guy knows ^.

IF was likely meant to simply be 'if' but fully capitalized for emphasis, rather than an acronym.
That was a..... PUN!

Oh, I know.

<heavy sigh>

Like this guy.

<heavy sigh>
Let me hold it with you. Here you go, now it's a light sigh!

Not as good as kilogrammar, but I still smiled.
WARNING: IF you are expecting another pun, you will be disappointed. This post have no puns :( :( :(

Actual post: wooow, my PUNS are getting criticized!!! That means I have made it, right? Right?
Anyway, there is a PUN quality meter and some are better than others but I like to keep them coming so if there is a not so good PUN I will still post them alongside with the PERFECT PUNS  but fear not, for I will never post a bad PUN  :P  ( more evil laughter)
Title: Re: Self acclaimed grammar police
Post by: Redeagl on April 18, 2017, 05:16:35 pm
Wilshire,  what was that dictum of Chekhov's? If a pun appears in the first act....

This thread sure went to hell quickly.  ;)
Check what?  how do you check on a hov ( whatever that means)  ?
I am a Ciphrang.