The subjunctive mood....Father, it is too far. 

Quote from: Wilshire on April 14, 2017, 06:54:28 pm

Quote from: geoffrobro on April 14, 2017, 06:33:40 pm

After seeing the game of thrones show go to shit in 2 seasons I don't think I would want to see a PON show. Plus they would Norsirai-wash everyone which would take the eastern feel of the series.

Nah think of it this way. The show isn't for the fans. its to raise capital to support Bakker writing more Earwa and other stories. Even if it becomes a clusterfuck after 1 episode, the sale of the rights would have raised enough capital to produce at LEAST 1 more book, if not a whole trilogy.

You, the original fan, lose nothing - but gain the world.

If a fan was tempted and saw it..... They will 100% lose their soul.

Fixed Wilshire's grammar.....cause it was buggin' me! (Yeah, I'm THAT guy.......)

Still working my way through "The PM Show" podcasts. The most recent ones featured Jethro Tull's "Thick As A Brick" in its entirety. Classic 70's prog.

As for new bands, I'm also digging Thirteen Of Everything and their album "Welcome, Humans". I kid you not,  that's the title.

Quote from: Beardfisher King on April 07, 2017, 03:10:36 pm

in an incredibly dense world- building series such as TSA, part of the narrative arc has to include the introduction of such concepts.

IMO it really comes down to two distinct pieces.
One, people already complain about TDTCB a difficult hurdle. That whole book is almost entirely world-building, which slows it down considerably, and people struggle to keep up. Beyond that, Bakker then bakes in the world-building as much as possible throughout, so the series just grows in grows. Any more shoved into TDTCB and no one would finish it

Two, the slow drip of information is a massive part of the story. The ignorance and lack of knowledge of all the characters makes the world seem more real - at least to me. You have to read the whole thing before you know most of whats going on, and I suspect even after that there will be plenty that is left shrouded. The story just isn't built to give you all the information up front, and I think its better for that.

If that's bothersome, there's no getting around it.  I think there's going to be a satisfying reward at the end of the road for those that make it.

I couldn't agree more, W. Add to your observations the unreliability of the various POV's, and you're left with a stew of confusion and authorial misdirection.

Myself, I find TDTCB the easiest read, since the world-building is done in comparatively broad strokes. But that just indicates how difficult I find the following books. 

I can't say I care much for the concept of the Judging Eye, either. This is just my general preference, but I don't like it when some new, game-changing concept is introduced every once in a while, to a series. I think it's best when the general rules of the setting are laid out early on, and any progression on them is gradual as opposed to "and here's this wholly new thing!" What guarantee is there that the next book won't introduce some new, incredibly weird game-changing concept that takes the story in a wholly different direction?

I sympathize with your feelings of frustration over the introduction of "game-changing" concepts, but I think in an incredibly dense world- building series such as TSA, part of the narrative arc has to include the introduction of such concepts. It's important to consider that in a realistic sub-creation such as Eärwa, the knowledge of the characters is limited. Discoveries are made. Events occur. At the beginning of PoN, only the Mandate believe that the Consult still exists.

Imho, TUC will blow our minds with game-changing concepts.

Cuttlefish, where does Koringhus equate the JE with the Absolute?

ETA: when I'm wrong, I have no problem saying as much. So I went reading through the Koringhus chapters where he apprehended the JE and came across this.

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This, Sister … This is why I bare my throat to the blade of your judgment. This is why I would make myself your slave. For short of death, you, Anasûrimbor Mimara, wife-daughter of Anasûrimbor Kellhus, who is also my father … you, Sister, are the Shortest Path. The Absolute dwells within your Gaze. You … a frail, worldborn slip, heavy with child, chased across the throw of kings and nations, you are the Nail of the World, the hook from which all things hang. Thus do I kneel before it, awaiting, accepting, death or illumination—it does not matter which … So long as I am at last known.

MSJ, in my opinion, that declaration from Koringhus is going to turn out to be a critical statement on Earwan reality.

Lmao beardfisher, those are great.

I'm just warming up. Wait til the "Psûkhe me!" tour comes to a comedy club near you. Or should I call it "The Even Greater Ordeal"?

Boy, I'd love to see Simon Cowell try to tell Drusas Achamian that his singing was a little "pitchy"....