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The No-God / Re: Your mission, should you choose to accept!
« on: November 16, 2017, 09:43:27 pm »
Achamian sacrifices himself with the Heron Spear to destroy the No-God. Coincidentally he is the 144,001 soul on Earwa and after his death the outside closes.

The resulting Indigo plague kills the remaining 144,000.

Kellhus pulls a Dr Manhattan and goes away to other worlds.

The End.

P.S.:Sorry I am tired, can't think of all the important details, but this sounds kewl.

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Author Q&A / Re: Unholy Consultation - *SUPER SPOILERIFIC*
« on: July 30, 2017, 04:49:58 pm »
Cu'jara-Cinmoi,

what's happening with TV option? Who got the rights? Is it the dude who did the Golden Compass and I think he wrote SW: Rogue One?

How is the Logos dependent on emotions? And on that point - what is specifically neuroanatomically different with the Dunyain (e.g. larger neocortexes)?

Have you got a contract about the No-God series and when can we expect them?

How is that congenital blindness (the way you use the word in your books) when taken to the extreme (that it blinds completely one person) can alleviate them from sin? In that sense, is the type of insanity that brings about lack of self-insight and ego-syntonic cognitions a ticket to redemption? In short, complete ignorance brought about from severe disorder = elevator to Heaven?

The more I ponder your books and the TUC, the more I think of you as a mad genius wizard of fantasy, I hate you, I love you, keep writing. Also, if possible, this is just fan request, can you bring about less abstract metaphors and abstractions as a whole?

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The Unholy Consult / Re: Ramblings of a Broken Soul
« on: July 30, 2017, 12:37:52 am »
Hey Artaois,

in the Great Ordeal there is a scene with Kellhus being in Hell, a head on a pole behind him, and apparently talking to a ciphrang (Cnauir according to my suspicions) who tells Kellhus he has been here before. If I am guessing correctly, the Outside is privy to past, present and future, meaning the denizens of the Outside, including Gods, Ciphrang and whoever else is there, can see all events. So there might be a time paradox with Kellhus's soul, if you recall in TGO Kellhus sees himself in his dreams without the haloes. That Kellhus without the haloes could be future Kellhus, there is that wacky theory.

As for Kelmomas, there is this theory that he is twin-souled and Bakker has said in the Q&A that the crux of the issue was the lack of identity of Kel if I remember correctly.

If you recall, at the end, Ajokli possessed Cnaiur and was angry that Kellhus cheated him somehow and could not find him in Hell (because if he did, he would have a hell of a time). There is a theory in this forum that the dream Kellhus has with the tree and his version without the haloes might be his sanctuary from Hell, we will see about this one.

I think that Kellhus prepared contigencies for being possessed by Ajokli and Kelmomas interfering.

We were shown Kelmomas from the eyes of a Scylvendi who died mainly because that is a writerly techniqe to show us some important action without getting in the heads of the important characters in that scene - in this case the skin spy as Esmenet and Kelmomas, plus the scene acting as a red herring because the boy there could have been Crabicus.

Hope this gives you some clarity.

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The Unholy Consult / Re: [TUC SPOILERS] The Carapace & The No-God
« on: July 25, 2017, 12:43:27 am »
Profgrape, Wiltshire,

Anyone here actually thought about the ramifications of what it means that the No-God collapses Subject and Object? Those two terms are found in philosophy and psychology. Here comes another crackpot In my halfhanded understanding of them, mostly as they relate to psychology (and grammar and philosphy), is that the Subject is the unique experince of consciousness, an entity acting upon and observingthe world, while the object is the world outside, the thing observed and acted upon.

Hence, for all intents and purposes, the soul of the No-God is blind to the uniqueness of his experience and the outside world. So that's why we get all the ''Tell me. What do you see. What am I?'' I don't know all the consequences from a hypothetical collapsing of subject and object and how such a soul can still talk and have an idea of I... but it seems to me, that in a sense, (with all of Bakker writing about blindness) the No-God, by being completely blind to himself is absolutely overcome by the darkness that comes before, but he is also blind to the world.

In a metaphysical sense, such completely blindness can render the No-God invisible to the Gods and the Outside, because he is without agenticity nor awareness to the complete destruction caused by him. His lack of uniqueness of experience and blindness to the outside world is perhaps the key that allows him to be of one with the Horde and perhaps experience the world through their eyes (this seems like an eerie, dark inversion of the Thousandfold Thought? In a sense, has not the soul of the No-God grasped the Absolute as it is a soul unmoved by itself and the world?

And does complete blindness of Self and the World relieve one of all sin?

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The Unholy Consult / [TUC Spoilers] A Few Observations...
« on: July 18, 2017, 05:57:33 pm »
Hiya folks. Thought I'd drop my crackpot thoughts about the TUC (just read it over the weekend, I have no idea how many pages is that book).

Still reeling from the ending going ''OMG OMG WTF JUST HAPPENED THIS IS AWESOME NO IDEA WHAT HAPPENED''

So I hope perhaps together we can achieve a semblance of meaning and perhaps catch up to our Dunyanic author (Bakker!).

Here's a few observations.

Kellhus'scene in the Thousand Hells with the head on a pole. There is hinted textual evidence that the ciphrang he is talking to (the most crocodillian of Sons) may be none other than Cnaiur. Recall, in TUC, Moe JR thinks that Cnaiur's swazond ridden skin looks crocodillian when Cnaiur is in the tent with him (it was one of the scenes).

So that's one viable guess for the scene in Hell. The other which was deciphering the head on the pole, I saw was puzzled over in these forums, the Onkis image - which looks like a head on a pole is actually a head on a tree. Nonmen Siol link aside, trees are a recurring and persistent motif in Dunyain thought - Little Kellhus is taught to be like a tree during combat, Kelmomas if I recall correctly had thoughts about a tree, Kellhus on the circumfix also saw a tree (with the dunayin monk (himself) with legs bent like an animal). Don't know how to put all of this together, though.

There might really be some time-travelling paradox that is involved in Kellhus's possible survival after he became salt. There is definitely an implication of that in the Hell scene (with our boy going ''But I have never been here'').

Still don't know what that damn head on the pole is. Short of beating Jason Deem (and if I surmise correctly, he posts here) for the answer, it's guesstimates. Though with the decapitant entry in the glossary, and perhaps, just perhaps, if Kellhus somehow switched heads with Ajokli when he was conversing with the Dunsult, then maybe somehow his head ends on a pole in hell? How, I've no idea, especially with the Dunsult creeping around the pillar of salt etc.

Also, all the living who died are in hell, The Ordealmen, the men of the first Holy War, Serwe, Proyas, everybody. If Kellhus, with his unseen power (who descends as hunger in the Inverse flame, Ciphrang or God, who knows) creates a whole subreality of his in the Outside, might have very curious and crazy interactions with the Damned mentioned above.

So, it is a good guess, that the next series will be about stopping the Second Apocalypse with some storytelling in hell as well, quite possibly Kellhus dunyaning the Thousand Hells.

What do you guys think?

EDIT: Gah! Another crackpot idea hit me. So if the Gods see past, present and future (not sure about alternate timelines) and the Outside is out of time and perhaps offers a vantage point to past, present and future... what happens if a Dunyain with his probability trance is afforded that vantage point. What happens if Kellhus and his TTT and whatever follows his TTT includes this possibility (as it quite probably does)? Time-travelling paradoxes abound, saw few theories about that and Kellhus becoming the God of Gods etc etc etc. Madness...

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