The Second Apocalypse
Miscellaneous Chatter => General Misc. => Topic started by: Dora Vee on March 10, 2019, 05:02:10 pm
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im not familiar with griffith, whats that from? Also, that's a woman right?
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GRIFFFIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITH
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im not familiar with griffith, whats that from? Also, that's a woman right?
It's a man ofc.
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Griffith is from a manga known as Berserk and he is very much male. A very beautiful male. Similar to Conphas, only Griffith isn't actually a sociopath.
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I don't think that when Bakker described Conphas as "handsome", he meant feminine beauty. I personally don't really agree with that comparison.
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But....but....he said that Conphas was beautiful. :(
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Well, Conphas can look like whatever you want. I do think that Griffith is a bit too "androgynous" for my vision of Conphas, but that's just me.
However, I'm not too sure I'd consider Griffith any less of a sociopath than Conphas. I mean, maybe, according to DSM IV or something, but both are narcissists to some degree. However, Griffith being less so actually makes him a worse person, to me, because he actually considers not being horrible, then does anyway. That is, if we consider him to have any free will as it was anyway, but then again, we could think of Conphas the same way.
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Read Cnaiurs internal descriptions, i might be misremembering but i'm sure he thinks of him as feminine. That may be Proyas though.
Also isn't Conphas Ketyai?
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I was under the impression that Conphas was some sort of a blonde with blue eyes. Maybe a Roman type?
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I saw that I image and realized, given his uncle, I think Conphas would definitely be more effeminate than perhaps modern culture would find to be within traditional gender norms... I Conphas is definitely pretty.
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Achamian found himself glancing periodically at the Exalt-General. There was something unnerving about the man’s physical perfection, something that made Achamian acutely self-conscious of his own portly frame, almost as though through Conphas, the Gods had revealed the cruel humour behind the accumulated flaws of more common men.
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Seems like my phone won't let me edit this, but I wanted to put it in quotations and mark "portly frame" bold.
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Seems like my phone won't let me edit this, but I wanted to put it in quotations and mark "portly frame" bold.
But Akka is refering to his own "portly frame" not Conphas. Not sure what you mean to say here.
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Yeah that's akka calling himself fat.
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Akka referring to himself as fat means that Conphas is a contrast to himself. So my conclusion is that Conohas is muscle-ey, tall etc... Body-wise, which would fit someone spending a great amount of time in the battle field. And that doesn't look much like Griffith, to me. There's also the Conphas being Keytai thing, which also makes him not so close to Griffith.
Thanks, H for making the edit btw. My forum mechanics are rusty.
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I don't think that Griffith is a narcissist or a sociopath. If anything, I think he's on the BPD spectrum. Honestly, when it came to him being horrible, in a lot of cases, he had to be. There were only two cases where he didn't have to horrible. :/
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I don't think that Griffith is a narcissist or a sociopath. If anything, I think he's on the BPD spectrum. Honestly, when it came to him being horrible, in a lot of cases, he had to be. There were only two cases where he didn't have to horrible. :/
I don't know, I'm not really a fan of the implications if we think of things along the lines of Griffith not having free will. Because, in that case, he isn't even a character, he's just a plot device. Indeed, everyone is just a plot device then, basically. It's far more interesting to me if Griffith does have free will, because then the question of why he does things is something to think about.
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Oh, I think he had free will, but in some cases, when he did do those horrible things, I don't think he had very many options.
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Oh, I think he had free will, but in some cases, when he did do those horrible things, I don't think he had very many options.
Well, there was always the option then of just sacrificing his "dream" and not selling them all for it. But that was always more important to him than anything. Which is the root of the whole thing, really.
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Oh, I think he had free will, but in some cases, when he did do those horrible things, I don't think he had very many options.
Well, there was always the option then of just sacrificing his "dream" and not selling them all for it. But that was always more important to him than anything. Which is the root of the whole thing, really.
How does that make him have free will though? This is how he truly was as a person, he was destined for the Egg of the King, destined to be a member of the God-Hand.
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How does that make him have free will though? This is how he truly was as a person, he was destined for the Egg of the King, destined to be a member of the God-Hand.
Well, if he had no choice in the matter, then there isn't anything to discuss, it was all fated from the get go and no one could do otherwise. Well, except perhaps the Skull Knight, but even that could be questioned.
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How does that make him have free will though? This is how he truly was as a person, he was destined for the Egg of the King, destined to be a member of the God-Hand.
Well, if he had no choice in the matter, then there isn't anything to discuss, it was all fated from the get go and no one could do otherwise. Well, except perhaps the Skull Knight, but even that could be questioned.
What's exactly wrong with that tho? Also, remember when the Skull Knight tried to kill Griffith and instead tore a hole between worlds? It'll be interesting to see how far their 'white-luck' extends, won't it.
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What's exactly wrong with that tho? Also, remember when the Skull Knight tried to kill Griffith and instead tore a hole between worlds? It'll be interesting to see how far their 'white-luck' extends, won't it.
There isn't really anything wrong with it, only the fact that it begs different questions in the case.
Time is a complicated subject in either case. I do find it more interesting, personally, to think of the characters as having choices, even if those choices have, essentially, been preordained. In this sense, it isn't that Griffith had to do what he did, it's that he would. So, he did make a choice, in a sense, because he could have acted otherwise, but chose not to. That he chose not to was foreseen, but to me, it's more interesting if this was not determinate, blindly so, but rather is just knowledge of the way things are likely to turn out.
I mean, we'll see how it works, because Guts should be dead, but he isn't. So, we don't know if we are in a totally determinate world or not. It's still more interesting to me if the characters are actually making choices, even if they fail at making ones they haven't been driven to. It's basically a question of "locus of control."
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Akka referring to himself as fat means that Conphas is a contrast to himself. So my conclusion is that Conohas is muscle-ey, tall etc... Body-wise, which would fit someone spending a great amount of time in the battle field. And that doesn't look much like Griffith, to me. There's also the Conphas being Keytai thing, which also makes him not so close to Griffith.
Thanks, H for making the edit btw. My forum mechanics are rusty.
Ah, I get what you're saying, and you might be right. I'm just pointing out that while muscular might be the opposite of fat, the most opposite thing to fat guy would be a beautiful woman lol.