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The Almanac: PON Edition / The Slog TWP - Concluding Respite [Spoilers]
« on: February 09, 2016, 02:45:32 pm »
Just thought I'd leave this here. I have no idea as to the relative sequence of dates or whether The Slog would've been starting the TTT this week.

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Literature / Vatican Digitizing Its Library
« on: February 07, 2016, 02:32:49 pm »

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Literature / Get Yer Lovecraft On!
« on: February 07, 2016, 02:29:46 pm »
Holy shit!

This is just awesome.

Lovecraft is digital and free!?!?

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Lovecraft stories, audiobooks, and radio plays: The complete original stories of H.P. Lovecraft in a clean and easy to read collection; You can also find audiobooks and audio plays alongside the original short stories and texts.

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General Earwa / Doom County
« on: January 30, 2016, 03:51:00 am »

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General Earwa / TOR: Book Publishing Process
« on: January 14, 2016, 05:42:28 pm »
Interesting and informative - hypothetical article - expounding upon Martin's comment that his publishers were prepared to turn around Winds of Winter from submission to publication in three months (had he actually finished before the New Year): http://www.tor.com/2016/01/13/winds-of-winter-book-publishing-process/

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As yesterday kicked off the arbitrary second portion (of which, according to one version of Camlost's timeline, TWP only has three parts) and the Slog is only very slowly slogging along, I thought I'd make the next thread, if only to goad others into posting their thoughts.

Cheers, friends.

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General Earwa / MOVED: Ziggy played guitar
« on: January 11, 2016, 04:19:04 pm »

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General Earwa / Referencing TSA in RL
« on: January 11, 2016, 04:35:21 am »
Camlost has previously made a joke about me quipping TSA at work and I really do.

The other night, I nailed about four so I thought I'd start a thread. I know that SR is the undisputed King of TSA References at Work and GJ is his second so this might actually get interesting.

All references so made by me are loud (as is all in kitchen communication) and unintelligible to those who have not read TSA. And, of course, I offer no explanation other than a half-smirk, a laugh, and a twinkle in my eye ("save it for the cartoons, motherfucker" - Disciple).

- Our pivot (thee who calls out orders and controls the flow of food-making in the kitchen) called a "Crispy Chicken" (takes about seven minutes to cook) to one of the older cooks, who is about 40+. About that long later, the pivot asked where the CC was and the 40+ cook responds, "Crispy Chicken... ah fuck. I forgot to remember," to which I yelled out "He is Erratic!"

- "The wings are without beginning or end" in response to someone calling out for more chicken wings to be cooked.

- One of the high school kids who works part-time on weekends saw one of the closing supervisors cleaning during a 50+ open (that many individuals ordering at once) and asked him why he was cleaning when we were getting slammed (cooking for those 50+ people). It's actually very important to clean as you cook because a messy station is an inefficient station. I was across the kitchen and, of course, felt the need to yell "No slackers! Everyone cleans on the Slog." (The Slog gets a lot of metaphorical mileage during rushes).

- One of the closers was bitching about our chef (who is a paper chef - i.e. one who handles paperwork rather than cooking) grilling us about keeping up on bill times (how fast we're supposed to cook certain items and plate a table in cohesion). I shrugged and responded "he who does not ride with the People, is not of the People."

Looking forward to hearing the tales of other-folk.

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General Misc. / Happy Ritual 2015!
« on: December 24, 2015, 02:12:52 pm »
Because I'm clearly less inventive (read much dumber) than three years ago:

Because I'm clearly less inventive (read dumber) than last year:

Quote from: Madness
We have paraded through the streets, we have invaded temples - spent weeks and months storing energy for this day of personal ritual. Those persons who measure their lives in the monetary bumps they snort from consumer culture laugh as gods while the world bows in orthodoxy.

Merry Christmas,
Happy Constitution Day,
Malkh,
Quaid-e-Azam,
Takanakuy,
Happy Kwanzaa,
and Happy Hanukkah...

Cheers all. Celebrate life :D!

Quote from: Curethan
Where did I put that TSA christmas poem...
aha
All credit to Sil-Inchor from the 3seas forum

Twas the Night Before the Second Apocalypse.

Twas just after the womb-plague
And all through the manse
Not a Nonman was stirring
Not even their prince.
The chorae were hung
By the chimney with care
In hopes that the Carapace
Soon would be there.

The sranc were all nestled
Up snug in their beds
Visions of obscenity
Dancing in their heads
When up on Earwa
There arose such a clatter
The violent arrival
Of Man’s Darkest Hour

Away to the windows
The Mandate did fly
They threw open the shutters
Light poured from their eyes
And what did their dream-blearied orbs
There perceive
But a towering storm shouting
WHAT DO YOU SEE?
With a nimil sarcophagus
So shiny and dread
They knew that slain Lokung
Was no longer Dead.

More rapid than eagles
The Consult they came
And He bellowed and gibbered
And screamed out their names

ON SKAFRA, ON GLORTMUND, ON HALGYS AND AURAX
ON BLODMYR, ON THREKLA, ON LYRNYR AND AURANG

TO THE NAIL HIGH IN HEAVEN
TO THE GODS THERE OUTSIDE
ON WRACU, ON BASHRAG, TO RUIN WE RIDE

So up to the skies
His legions they flew
Man-Traitors and skin-spies
The last Inchoroi, too

The Mandate, despairing
Could not stay aloof
They burned in the fires
Of the great Mog-Pharau

The Men of the Three Seas
Were soon overthrown
Their hearthstones all cracked
And their great kings dethroned
The Shriah was headless
The Emperor dead.
‘Twas the Second Apocalypse
The prophets all said

But remember, dear children
That though the No-God would fell us
If things really turn ugly
We can all trust in Kellhus

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The Almanac: PON Edition / The Slog TDTCB - Concluding Respite [Spoilers]
« on: December 19, 2015, 06:23:02 pm »
Just thought I'd make a concluding thoughts thread. It seems, arbitrarily mapping from Sunday to Saturday and Wilshire's notation in TWP's The First March thread, that the Slog "is set" to finish TDTCB on Boxing Day.

I've quoted some of Camlost's ideas below concerning the organization of TWP, which roughly mirrors TDTCB's structures and serves a couple hundred page morsel every week, and TTT. Since the threads have been created following his notation but the time-scale was never really agreed upon, this is something that might be formalized before really diving into TWP.

Likewise, I've noticed some tangents take discussion within the threads far beyond the content therein. Do whatever you all will with the threads but I encourage you again to take some of deeper nerdaneling to specific threads - for instance, the discussion of whether the Dunyain are in-league with the Consult via Moenghus' journey and the Simas anomaly or the analysis of the Esmenet/Synthese confrontation (for which we have many threads, including Esmenet & Aurang).

Also, I'd like to get a Cast organized for the discussion of The Slog and its conclusion of TDTCB - but as always need people to partake. I'm willing to play host and moderator and I'll volunteer Wilshire to record - willingly, I hope ;) - but it'd be nice to get some new content-generating members to commit.

So - following the arbitrary mapping of dates - a week's break could coincide nicely with that festive portion of our commercial year between the 27th and the 2nd of '16. We might plan - possibly even accomplish a Cast - in that time and it will allow time to digest and pick up fresh in the New Year.

A final prompt - Camlost's one hundredish page reading weeks, if begun on Jan 3rd, are still only going to take the Slog through PON until mid-March, if that. That leaves about three and a half months to read TJE and WLW before the Summer Solstice (which is almost exactly two weeks until TGO's supposed release ;) )... which just seems like too much time, though you could eat up time with week respites per book and Cast organization.

TDTCB and TWP both lend themselves to easy delineation. The former breaks down into five parts (the Sorcerer, the Emperor, the Harlot, the Warrior, and the Holy War) while the latter is broken down into three major parts (the First, Second, and Third March). I had toyed with the idea of dividing things by viewpoint characters, but that gets muddy and often plot points overlap each other.

However, TTT: As such, I'd recommend we chunk the first four chapters: Caraskand and Enathpaneah together, the following six: Xerash and Joktha, chapters eleven and twelve: Holy Amoteu, and finally the culminating chapters: Shimeh. This works out to anywhere from 100-200 pages per subdivision, but I think it makes for the easiest means of organization.

Which is still only seven weeks of reading for TWP and TTT.

More on TWP:

I'll take a closer look at the following books as we approach them, but a cursory glance at TWP looks as if a decent guideline would be Ch. 1-4, 5-8, 9-12, 13-17 (slight stretch there for discussion's sake), 18-21, and then round it off 22-25.

If more people feel that a syllabus of sorts will help keep them on track, I can spend a little more time putting together something more comprehensive than what is listed above.

Lol - first you need people to take the class, Camlost ;).

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Writing / Mark Lawrence Critiques First Pages
« on: November 30, 2015, 05:10:44 pm »
So Mark Lawrence is critiquing first pages and he's done mine here. Too cool and he gave me lots to work with ;D.

I don't know if he's still accepting them (I randomly happened to find out and send him mine like the day after he first posted) but I recommend interested writers submitting.

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Literature / Karl Edward Wagner’s ‘Kane’ series
« on: November 24, 2015, 02:26:25 am »
I recently found this post on r/fantasy about the favorite obscure series of authors and I was hoping that one of the authors queried would mention Bakker. Surprise, surprise, Bakker's answer was the first on the list and he mentioned a series that he's never brought up elsewhere, to my knowledge.

Anyone ever been exposed to this?

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Short Stories & Others / Crash Space
« on: November 22, 2015, 04:48:03 pm »
Colour me horrified.

But... It is what it is. Seize the cheese, Du.

EDIT: The link is to a free draft but since the story is published in a philosophy journal I just thought I'd include their warning. Classic Bakker.

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Editorial note: The following story contains explicit sexual violence which some readers might find offensive or upsetting. In our judgment, the elements of the story that make it possibly offensive or upsetting are essential to the philosophical aims of the story.

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Philosophy & Science / Should Driverless Cars Solve the Trolley Problem?
« on: November 06, 2015, 02:50:55 pm »
Topic says it all. I've been seeing versions of this article going around the Infosphere.

The Trolley Problem, as is highlighted within every article, is a classic philosophy problem: if you're a bystander on a bridge who can stop a train from hitting and killing five people by changing the track but in doing so still kill a single person on that other track, should you do it? The overwhelming response to this, polling any given undergrad class, is yes. However, since the response became so common, Trolley Problem 1.1 adjusts and asks instead if you instead had to push that single person from the bridge, stopping the train before it hit the other five people further down the track, then the overwhelming response to this is no.

And now, we're at a human crux where we have to decide how driverless cars will make this decision, based on scenarios whereby the car can react and kill its passengers to minimize lose of life. I felt compelled to query our noosphere.

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The White-Luck Warrior / Collection of General Series Questions
« on: October 02, 2015, 02:17:01 pm »
Questions from TSB's introductory post. Thought they might get more traffic here.

So the mark doesn’t equate to damnation since chorae have a deep mark and are sorcerous items but going by the JE they are god’s own tears though this doesn’t actually tell us if sorcerers themselves are damned. Guess we have to wait and see whether mimara glimpses a socerer that isn’t damned.

Mimara sees snakes as holy….are cish holy for their affinity for snakes

Kellhus shows us his own inverse fire….is this a prelude to what the consult inverse fire is. Long distance communication with the black heavens.….an emptiness that lets people peer out or into someplace else.  Damnation-scope

Mimara claims it wasn’t the betrayal of the nonmen that created the topoi in the mountain but rather the generations of human slaves the nonmen used. Just interesting because akka assumes wrong stuff all the time. Misdirection for the reader I guess.

The judging eye is a thing of women that will give birth to stillborn children….but mimara had the judging eye well before she became pregnant. Is this a result of mimara herself being born even tho esmi was using the whore’s shell.

In chapt 1 of the UC akka talks about how when souls are trapped into objects like wathi dolls etc
“ The intricacies of identity are always sheared away. Memory. Faculty. Character. These are cast into the pit... Only the most base urges survive in proxies.”
Just like the nonman revenant created on the topoi under the mountain dreaming he was a god but with a hunger and speaking through the unconscious akka etc
Just like the no-god created in golgotterath (known topoi according to akkas dreams) speaking through scranc, wracu etc. asking who he is

i.e. is the no-god a big ol soul trap.

Also is wutteat a temporary storage bank for souls of the inchora if hell sustains him from within and he refuses to die until salvation is achieved. (I’ve read some theories already but thought I’d remention)


finally what is with the glow around kellhus's hands. the first time the books mention a halo its serwe noticing them on the skin spy mimic of kellhus. clearly thats just serwe's insanity bleeding through but then the next time they are mentioned by kellhus himself after his ordeal on the tree and pulling out serwe's heart from his robe...right after his mind broke. latter when kel is talkin to his pa he mentioned seeing the halo about his hands all the time. We know some of his followers see the halo...even aka glimpses it on occasion but some people see it all the time and others only intermittently.

point im getting to is that it seems to me that the halo is evidenced by people who are probably insane. serwe and kel included. but madness in earwa isnt an objective discredit to people seeing the halo. it has a metaphysical component. when Cnaiür recalls akkas tutorial on madness

" Each man, he explained, was a kind of hole in existence, a point where the Outside penetrated the world. He tapped one of the beads with his finger. It broke, staining the surrounding parchment. When the trials of the world broke men, he explained, the Outside leaked into the world. This, he had said, was madness."

so i guess im saying that kelhus is mad and that thru him the outside is leaking into the world hence the halo that people sometimes see. this differs to sorcery but is more like the way the godess yatwer can do some pretty freaky/crazy stuff but we dont necessarily call it sorcery.

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