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The White-Luck Warrior / Re: Nonmen Society
« on: November 28, 2013, 09:59:53 am »
The big question here - that we dont have the answer to, but Kellhus certainly has - is WHY Ishterebinth has joined the Consult.

I believe Kellhus has calculated that this reason is a very good one, from the Nonman perspective, and he won't be able to win them over.

So Kellhus will, somewhat surprisingly, massacre the shit out of the Quya with Chorae-tipped arrows at a convenient time, possibly on arrival, and then incinerate/dice all the non-sorcerous ones.

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We are heavily conditioned by Tolkien here, and automatically believe that elves (and thereby elf-analogues) will do the right thing in the end, and that they are somehow inherently "good", while Bakker repeatedly tells us through Akka and Serwa how different they are from us.   

ETA: Apparently the comment from Moe was in the Chapter 3 excerpt from TUC. Thus I have spoiler tagged it.

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The White-Luck Warrior / Re: Dunyain Weakness
« on: November 27, 2013, 09:20:35 pm »
Yes, the Army of the South clearly was the most expendable part. But I don't see the obvious benefit in expending it by blundering, which is basically what happened. Had any sorcerous resources remained at Irsulor, it could have ended very differently.

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The White-Luck Warrior / Re: Meppa is X
« on: November 26, 2013, 07:59:28 pm »
Thank you! :)

Wrong thread, but what are those redemption/damnation points anyway? Can they be used for something?

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The White-Luck Warrior / Re: Meppa is X
« on: November 26, 2013, 08:57:16 am »
Until someone makes a really convincing case I will stick with the simplest explanation - Meppa is a Tekne construct, grown in Golgotterath by Moe, Cnaiur and Shaeönanra from a severed Cishaurim phallus that Aurang found outside of Shimeh.

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General Earwa / Re: So, the state of Kellhus's kids - Yatwerian sanction?
« on: November 25, 2013, 08:20:54 pm »
They could be mutually exclusive. Just so happens that the only woman Kellhus could breed with has been raped by his enemy. World conspires?
That darned conspiring World, yes. Could be. But it seems a little too... what's the adjectivisation, now again... Nerdany? Nerdanish? Nerdanesque?

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General Earwa / Re: So, the state of Kellhus's kids - Yatwerian sanction?
« on: November 25, 2013, 03:36:56 pm »
I seem to remember that Kellhus failed to get viable children with some concubines as well. It seems slightly improbable that Aurang had messed with all of them too.

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Atrocity Tales / Re: Hiding your Voice
« on: November 23, 2013, 02:49:45 pm »
Do the gill lines mean the inchies are genuinely an alien species? I mean why add that, when yo a sex machine? It sounds like a remnant? Anyway, that's a bit off topic, but had to be said. ;)
I think they added them. They would be very useful for raping various ocean creatures. And in jacuzzis.

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General Earwa / Re: Seswatha's heart
« on: November 21, 2013, 02:21:24 pm »
Well yes, with my crackpottery, Seswatha would still be around and have agency. But Outside, which of course means he is not necessarily on the same time axis as Eärwa. Which could help in some ways and hinder in other.

Cracking on: How do the Naû-Cayuti dreams fit into this? Well, an Outside Seswatha could have taken care of Naû's soul (and thereby memories) when he died. Of course, we don't even know if Naû's soul ever passed into the Outside. But the Zeümi ancestor worship belief system supports ancestors having some agency on the Outside, could definitely be the case here.

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General Earwa / Re: Seswatha's heart
« on: November 21, 2013, 09:08:14 am »
And to crack my pot even further:

Seswatha was desperate and made a deal with a fairly major Outside Agency (God/Ciphrang). In return for letting Ses hang around the Outside, broadcasting dreams and whatnot, Ses has promised said Agency a steady inflow of scrumptious souls. These souls are committed to the Agency by the Grasping ritual, and the Daimiotic artifact that is Seswatha's heart.

ETA: added clarity

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General Earwa / Seswatha's heart
« on: November 18, 2013, 10:42:49 pm »
I don't know if there already is a topic for this. Tried some searching but couldn't find any. That might just be me being inept though.

I'm sure there is something weird with it. We know (from the TUC Ch 1 excerpt) that the regular soul binding stuff hasn't been used here. And Achamian never really thinks a lot about it, it's almost like he is avoiding to think about it.

Also, in the light of that the Mandate don't worship the spaces between the Gods, could it be that this would stop Seswatha from having an influence? I got the beginnings of a crackpot theory here, involving the Mandate - possibly on some subconscious level - needing to in effect worship Seswatha for getting access to his dreams.

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The White-Luck Warrior / Re: Meppa is X
« on: November 18, 2013, 09:59:32 am »
Nah, that guy you called "Rick" is Meppa, worshipping the Inverse Fire with his glorious singing and dancing act. In the video, reflections from the IF can be seen very clearly, on the wall in the evening scenes.

As Scott's first attempt to simultaneously illustrate the terrific movie potential of the Second Apocalypse, give his fans a preview of TUC and clear up all these misconceptions about Meppa, I think it's overall very well executed. Maybe this particular scene is somewhat too spoilerific for some, even though it is very powerful.

Are those women Serwa and Theliopa btw?



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Atrocity Tales / Re: Hiding your Voice
« on: November 18, 2013, 09:13:29 am »
Bit off topic, but probably much easier to get an aswer to - what are the tripods?
Quote from: The False Sun
At last they entered the broad circle of the Asinna, the expansive hub of Nogaral. A great rug woven of brushed white grasses softened both the floor and the gloom. Bronze tripods glowered golden, casting yellow petals across the weave. Tablet racks fashioned of black ash loomed about the chamber’s circumference.

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Atrocity Tales / Re: The Four Revelations of Cinial'jin
« on: November 17, 2013, 09:17:35 pm »
"Cûn"? Ok. He didn't say what that was, did he?

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Atrocity Tales / Re: The Four Revelations of Cinial'jin
« on: November 17, 2013, 08:00:40 pm »
Something I don't understand - what is meant by "C n" here?

Quote
“This is why I saved you… You are my map. My chart.” Cu’jara Cinmoi leaps upon the altar, gloating, displaying the mad extent of his arrogance, openly, outrageously, knowing that his own would celebrate his impiety as strength, and that his enemies would cry out for heartbreak and fury. “I’m curious…” He smiles in the sad way of mothers seeing mediocrity in their children. “Do you feel it? Or is it a thoughtless assumption, the fact that Men shrink in your presence?” There is a breath that belongs to the first glimpse of madness in some beloved soul, a hook and a pang, a consciousness of the tunnels that branch into caverns within you–a place where breath should be. What Siöl requests Siöl compels! The C n is a code of tyrants. When I stretch forth my hand, you shall be its shadow. “What is the sensation of immortality? I’m sure I… know it… But without any to-to compare…” The Man leans over him, his knife unnatural for its gleaming proximity to his face, something monolithic tapering to a shining prick, the point where earthly edges intersect, then cross over into death.
My bold.

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Atrocity Tales / Re: Hiding your Voice
« on: November 17, 2013, 01:59:55 pm »
I read this as unrelated to sorcery... Am I the only one? When you die, you are supposed to 'reach' to the demons that will devour your soul. Reach with your voice. I imagine falling through the void is painful, lots of screaming and yelling
I haven't thought of this interpretation myself, but it is possible. Still, it seems like something someone should practice, or at least think of as a possible way to avoid damnation. There is no mention of this in the text.

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