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Tangents are how we do, Curethan.

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I actually am of the opinion that Storks are one of the rare ensoulled animals. The continuous hints of proportion.

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pg524 TWP, english small edition, very end of chapter Twenty Two,Serwe's POV:

She felt rough hands pull her back, and an ache such as she'd never suffered as they puller her from his embrace. My heart!. They tear me from my heart!
"He's the God!" she shrieked. "Can't you see? He's the God!"
.....
Someone pulled her wailing son from her arms, another heart gone. Another ache.
....
The flash of sunlight across a knife. Sarcellus's knife. Sounds. Celebratory and horrified.
Serwe felt her life spill across her breasts... She raised her hands and beads of wine fell from her outstretched fingers.
...

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You are innocence, sweet Serwe, the one heart I need not teach"
Last flare of sunlight, drowsy, as though glimpsed by a child stirring from dreams beneath an airy tree.
Innocence, Serwe
The limb vaulted canopy, growing darker, warm-woollen like a shroud. No more sun
You are the mercy you seek
But my baby, my -

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pg 529, Chapter 23, Esmenet's POV:

Before roaring mobs, Incheiri Gotian had stripped Kellhus of his clothing, then whipped him with cedar branches until he'd bled from a hundred places, Afterward, they bound this bleeding body to Serwe's nude corpse, ankle to ankle, wrist to wrist, face to face. Then they lashed the two of them, limbs outstretched, to a great bronze ring, which they hoisted and chained - upside down no less - to the winding girth of Umiaki's lowest and mightiest limb. Esmenet had wailed her voice to nothing.

pg 525, at the very beginning of chapter Twenty Three, the quote:
"For Men, no circle is ever closed. We walk ever in spirals." - Drusas Achamian, The compendium of the first holy war.


One more thing, it was Dawn then Serwe was killed, just thought it was interesting she should see the sun go out when it was in fact getting brighter. Not something noteworthy on its own, as of course everything was fading and she was losing her vision as her blood poured out onto the ground. It is though the opposite of the Celmomian prophesy, where the dieing man saw the sun flare at sunset as he was dieing.

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Madness, that seems quite the leap.
From my (admittedly erratic) memory;

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I think you would probably have to include snakes via this definition.  What about other sacred animals?
Sranc/skin spies are about as likely as animals to be born ensouled.  Extremely rare and presumably indiviual cases, like the wizard skin spy.  Like one in a million chances.
I seem to hazily recall Scott said he hasn't actually written/conceptualized what an animal with a soul would be like.   Can't remember where though, might very well be fooling myself...

Wilshire - thanks buddy.  Especially the first bit quoted, Khellus is her heart - lampshading perhaps?  And it seems like Sarcellus cut her throat then she was beaten by the crowd.  Not a lot of surgically removing organs or apple coring hearts going on there.

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sorry but uh... lampshading?

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Sorry
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LampshadeHanging

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the most important part of the article
http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/lampshade-hanging_OotS_5519.gif


But yeah I guess it's possible.

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Curethan:

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I think I remember that quote somewhere too, about not fleshing out ensoulled animals :S...

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Damnit, I posted in TWP about the heart!!!  The long and short, I'm betting on psukhe.  But to that other thing that was hot at the beginning of this thread, "serwe's heart" -- I read that as in some sense Kellhus' physical meat pump, but symbolically devoted to Serwe or it was the heart that Serwe loved most or something like that.

[Aural]

Has there been any discussion about Kellhus pulling the heart out of his ass theory? Which apparently is pretty popular on the other site...

[Wilshire]

What would it have been doing in his ass? Not sure how he would have gotten it in there, being all tied up and such. That's some serious slight of hand.

[Cüréthañ]

Feananra, I was part of that original discussion and will take credit for convincing the other boarders of that.

Two options are miracle or trick. 
I posited miracle.
Physic surgery, prestidigitation and lamp oil hidden up the butt were the only suggestion of how Kellhus could have pulled it off, were it a trick.

My special talent is that people will often prefer the option that disagrees with mine. (negative charisma modifier )  Thus that became the 'official' explanation.

[Wilshire]

My special talent is that people will often prefer the option that disagrees with mine. (negative charisma modifier )  Thus that became the 'official' explanation.

This is amazing.

[SilentRoamer]

I was amazed when I heard the Heart-Ass theory. Text is pretty explicit that he pulls Serwes heart from his own chest - you can interpret that as you will but sleight of hand does not play a part!

[Madness]

What a bunch of crap.

The HITB theory is the absolute epitome of why I left Westeros.

Fucking trolls.

[Aural]

Yeah, what's worse is that they won't shut up about it, and they apparently think it's _HILARIOUS_ even though it's neither funny, nor clever, nor witty.