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« on: March 25, 2015, 03:26:19 pm »
Some quotes i thought might convince otherwise those that  didnt want to buy TKOMH part 2 and the RSB interview for $3:

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(That said, I really have been crazy productive despite not publishing anything in four years. I’m literally sitting on four completed drafts of four different books. My project for 2015 is getting each of these completed and ‘out there.’)

and later on :

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[GdM] What else can your readers expect to see from you in the next year or two? What are your plans for the future after The Unholy Consult (Aspect Emperor #3)? 32
[RSB] Books, fuck. Hopefully a bunch of them! I have a ‘no-blank page’ rule in effect until I have all these projects out the door.
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« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2015, 03:49:36 pm »
Thanks Wilshire, that's good news. I wonder what the four books are, TUC, LT&G, maybe Disciple sequel [and] something else?

I haven't bought it yet, but from the sample on Amazon,

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Heh.
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« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2015, 03:58:41 pm »
We are a lovely people, if I do say so myself,.

MG is, without a doubt, our quintessential link to the rest of everyone. His horde of bakkerfan's accounts and direct line to GdM has likely done more for spreading the words of bakker through the interwebz than any other one person.
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« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2015, 04:19:24 pm »
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I hadn't noticed that :).

MG is, without a doubt, our quintessential link to the rest of everyone. His horde of bakkerfan's accounts and direct line to GdM has likely done more for spreading the words of bakker through the interwebz than any other one person.

+1 8). Great job, MG!
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« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2015, 06:46:24 pm »
We are a lovely people, if I do say so myself,.

MG is, without a doubt, our quintessential link to the rest of everyone. His horde of bakkerfan's accounts and direct line to GdM has likely done more for spreading the words of bakker through the interwebz than any other one person.

w00t w00t!  :P

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« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2015, 06:55:23 pm »
So GM#3 has a 1/5 rating on Goodreads... wonder if it's anything Bakker said.

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« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2015, 06:58:37 pm »
Only has 1 rating so far.
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« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2015, 07:12:19 pm »
So GM#3 has a 1/5 rating on Goodreads... wonder if it's anything Bakker said.

With Bakker's huge influence, it must have been :P.
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« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2015, 08:58:06 pm »
Only has 1 rating so far.

Aw... so not only does it have a one star rating, only one person has read it?

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« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2015, 02:50:54 am »
Only has 1 rating so far.

Aw... so not only does it have a one star rating, only one person has read it?
That was probably bakker too.
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« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2015, 05:05:46 pm »
Just saying guys. You might want to post opinions of issue#3 on Amazon.

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« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2015, 05:37:07 pm »
Good call, Nskoghar. I did Goodreads and Amazon too.

Great reviews - much more generous than I. I barely did a cursory perusal of the other parts of either issue #2 or #3 (and I even got #1 for free because of a fuck up when I bought issue #2 and I don't even think I've read it at all).
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« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2015, 03:37:39 pm »
I've now read both parts of "The Knife of Many Hands" - it's definitely not terrible, but far from the best Bakker has written. It had some good parts, but felt very awkward and "patchy", and ended too abruptly. If I didn't know better, I'd think this was Bakker's first story.

I don't know if Bakker has gotten worse as a prose writer or if he's just awkward in the swords-n-sandals Howard genre (which he's emulating in this story), but it's a very far cry from the last things he wrote. WLW and "The False Sun" were Bakker at the top of his game, so this recent drop in quality is a bit weird. Maybe he was trying to overcome writer's block? Maybe he's just really unused to the Conan genre, being more of a cerebral guy? Maybe his fantasy-writing skills are rusty after spending all this time blogging about neuroscience? I have no idea.


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« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2015, 03:48:32 pm »
Madness suggested that a lot went missing from draft to word-count-capped GdM publishing. But thats just an excuse, he should have planned better if he knew he was going to run out of words. Still though, maybe he's just no good at paring down stories/ideas  to consumable morsels, and/or time restraints kill his prose. He certainly hasen't had a publication deadline and a word cap in recent years, so maybe he's rusty.
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« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2015, 04:32:16 pm »
Madness suggested that a lot went missing from draft to word-count-capped GdM publishing. But thats just an excuse, he should have planned better if he knew he was going to run out of words. Still though, maybe he's just no good at paring down stories/ideas  to consumable morsels, and/or time restraints kill his prose. He certainly hasen't had a publication deadline and a word cap in recent years, so maybe he's rusty.

Yeah, maybe he's used to writing longer novels and posting stories on his blog where the word-count limit is the sky, so the constraints of a fan-mag choked this story. But I agree, he should definitely have planned to make it short in the first place - "The False Sun" is a lot shorter, and it's also Bakker's best short story by far. This one was just badly edited and awkwardly written.

I liked a lot of things about the story - the use of magic was really creative, the politicking of the Scarlet Spires was cool, the Queen of Ainon was a rare non-prostitute female character, and the Norse barbarian in a decadent southern city is always an adventure classic - but it just felt awkward and sloppily put together. A lot of parts were good, but the whole wasn't.

Some scenes are too long and verbose, others are way too short, there's typos all over the place. The ending, wherein Our Hero escapes the city and Carythusal burns down in the space of one sentence, is way too abrupt to make sense. My reaction to the whole story was just "meh".
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