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« Reply #90 on: March 20, 2014, 01:51:32 am »
or aporetics caused the ark's fall/attracted the attention of the inchoroi?

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« Reply #91 on: March 20, 2014, 02:34:40 am »
or aporetics caused the ark's fall/attracted the attention of the inchoroi?

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« Reply #92 on: March 20, 2014, 03:59:01 pm »
I think the Aporos could have been a school dedicated to wards and other similar anti-magic defenses. Effectively the same as using a chorae, but not necessarily the same, mean that there could have been many different side effects other than salting and no-magic objects.

They could have specialized in no-magic fields, like the Anarcane ground, and had many objects, such as armors and weapons, that protected from sorcery effects. The chorae could have either been the penultimate achievement, or simply a cog in the wheel.

Would the Aporeti be sanctioned by some diety, similarly to the Psuke?
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« Reply #93 on: March 20, 2014, 04:08:26 pm »
They could have specialized in no-magic fields, like the Anarcane ground, and had many objects, such as armors and weapons, that protected from sorcery effects. The chorae could have either been the penultimate achievement, or simply a cog in the wheel.

Maybe the Aporos isn't like anarcane ground, maybe that's what caused anarcane ground.  Like some nonmen detonated an aporetic bomb of sorts which killed the onta in that area, and subsequently got banned for it.  Has that been theorized before?  Kinda seems like it would have been, just don't remember.  I can't remember.
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« Reply #94 on: March 20, 2014, 04:35:48 pm »
I want to think that anarcane ground is not the same thing as whatever's in chorae/aporos.  I think the aporos is sorcery that negates sorcery, but anarcane is something else entirely that negates all sorcery whether gnostic or aporetic or anything.  I don't have it with me, but I think the TTT glossary says something about Atrithau being spared in the first apocalypse because of its ground--the No-God can't tread there insofar as it's an aporetic thing, or its clothes are aporetic.  Maybe Mog would have to walk around naked in Atrithau? 

Neat that the 2 northern cities that survived are exactly these two: one anarcane and one aporetic (chorae hoard).

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« Reply #95 on: March 20, 2014, 09:27:48 pm »
or aporetics caused the ark's fall/attracted the attention of the inchoroi?

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« Reply #96 on: March 21, 2014, 05:18:30 am »
well what if the aporetics were banned because they were attracting the attention of the god or gods?

meaning nonmen strive to hide their voices, worship the spaces between gods, never garner their attention.  What if atraithau was an aporetic experiment that allowed the god to dream lucidly and NOTICE the nonmen again?  if that were the case, the aporetics would be doing something extremely contrary to nonman culture and society and likely to be banned for it.

The ironic bit is, they could be on the right track and even doing something holy in seeking out god, unlike the damned other nonmen who seek to hide from god.

Tear of god has a sort of nonman poetic ring to it, and perhaps the chorae are armored orbs protecting an actual tear from a lucidly dreaming god. :-p

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« Reply #97 on: March 23, 2014, 01:14:57 am »
well what if the aporetics were banned because they were attracting the attention of the god or gods?

meaning nonmen strive to hide their voices, worship the spaces between gods, never garner their attention.  What if atraithau was an aporetic experiment that allowed the god to dream lucidly and NOTICE the nonmen again?  if that were the case, the aporetics would be doing something extremely contrary to nonman culture and society and likely to be banned for it.

The ironic bit is, they could be on the right track and even doing something holy in seeking out god, unlike the damned other nonmen who seek to hide from god.

Tear of god has a sort of nonman poetic ring to it, and perhaps the chorae are armored orbs protecting an actual tear from a lucidly dreaming god. :-p

That's awesome.  Thousands of years ago, the first aporetic did his/her thing and it attracted the attention of the gods who flew across the universe to Earwa.  That planet the left was free from oppression even though it's inhabitants were still damned.  These people of this world strive in every way to recreate themselves and hunt down the gods, crashing their golden ark into the new divine homeworld.

That tears of god are literal tears of god, makes me think the nonmen have a very, very deep passage under Ishterebinth, leading all the way down to the face of god???

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« Reply #98 on: March 28, 2014, 07:21:42 pm »
They could have specialized in no-magic fields, like the Anarcane ground, and had many objects, such as armors and weapons, that protected from sorcery effects. The chorae could have either been the penultimate achievement, or simply a cog in the wheel.

Maybe the Aporos isn't like anarcane ground, maybe that's what caused anarcane ground.  Like some nonmen detonated an aporetic bomb of sorts which killed the onta in that area, and subsequently got banned for it.  Has that been theorized before?  Kinda seems like it would have been, just don't remember.  I can't remember.

I think thats an original. Though, an aporatic bomb would forcefully mend/repair the Onta... anti-bomb.

The Anarcane ground is supposed to be where the god/gods dream most lucidly? So if that Ground here has some kind of cause/affect relationship with the Aporos, then it isn't a particularly large leap to suggest that Mr. No-God is the Aporos incarnate... Or that it would be if not for the Inchoroi and their brutalization of it and forcefully Frankenstein-ing it together.
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« Reply #99 on: April 12, 2014, 11:26:42 pm »
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The Anarcane ground is supposed to be where the god/gods dream most lucidly?

That makes for a pretty cool binary: a person in the world dreams and they connect to the outsid, a person in the outside dreams and it does something to the world.  So dreaming is nothing more than connection between kinds of reality, both ways?

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« Reply #100 on: April 22, 2014, 05:25:36 pm »
Strange combination:

1) Akka tells Kellhus that he can say the Wathi Doll's name without being bruised and "still be able to handle trinkets without discomfort" possibly implying that some low level of being marked doesn't cause immediate death by salting, but only discomfort.

2) Titirga's mark is 'muted,' but his power is not.

SO, perhaps a character could mute their mark even more (while not decreasing power or are they are they inversely related?) AND be able to handle chorae with only minute amounts of discomfort.  If it's a principle of Earwa, I'm sure some Dunyain will achieve it.

Maybe this will be a bargaining chip at Ishterebinth.  Serwa will demonstrate how she can mute her mark and handle choraes.  Maybe Kellhus can do it for the Consult as a bargaining chip.  Mark On!  Mark Off!  The Clapper!

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« Reply #101 on: April 22, 2014, 10:57:03 pm »
Um, the Cish?  No Mark - still die to chorae though.
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« Reply #103 on: April 23, 2014, 12:19:55 pm »
Lmao. MG's imagination has runneth wild ;).
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« Reply #104 on: April 23, 2014, 08:01:25 pm »
Wonder if Kellhus could develop an anti-chorae substance.  Something that undoes the negation of aporetic magic.  He could put on a whole suit of armor of the stuff, shield, and everything.  Every chorae that hits it turns into a little lump of salt.