From the TUC Glossary - The Mysterious Deaths of 4121

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« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2017, 05:59:12 pm »
Great, great work there! I am on board with the theory that they witnessed something they weren't supposed to. Like that guy who saw Kellhus saw his head off, probably?
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« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2017, 08:33:55 pm »
Ingiaban, Sristai (4059—4121)—Man-of-the-Tusk, Palatine of the Conriyan province of Kethantei. Murdered by thieves while visiting family in Aoknyssus.

Another one?

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« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2017, 08:39:33 pm »
Ingiaban, Sristai (4059—4121)—Man-of-the-Tusk, Palatine of the Conriyan province of Kethantei. Murdered by thieves while visiting family in Aoknyssus.

Another one?

And another who died in Aöknyssus, too! The plot thickens...
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« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2017, 09:05:37 pm »
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In 4121, following the installation of Nurbanu Soter as King-Regent of High Ainon, the Holy Aspect-Emperor famously stayed in Kiz as a guest of Heramari Iyokus, the famed Blind Necromancer, learning the most forbidden of the forbidden arts, the Daimos

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Soter, Nurbanu (4069–)—Ordealman, Believer-King of High Ainon, leader of the Ainoni contingent in the Great Ordeal of Anasûrimbor Kellhus. Originally Palatine of the Ainoni district of Kishyat when he joined the First Holy War, but made “King-Regent” of High Ainon as reward for his role in the Unification Wars. Renowned for his pragmatic brutality.

And there is no Kosoter entry in the Glossary (even Koll has one!).

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« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2017, 09:16:32 pm »
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In 4121, following the installation of Nurbanu Soter as King-Regent of High Ainon, the Holy Aspect-Emperor famously stayed in Kiz as a guest of Heramari Iyokus, the famed Blind Necromancer, learning the most forbidden of the forbidden arts, the Daimos

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Soter, Nurbanu (4069–)—Ordealman, Believer-King of High Ainon, leader of the Ainoni contingent in the Great Ordeal of Anasûrimbor Kellhus. Originally Palatine of the Ainoni district of Kishyat when he joined the First Holy War, but made “King-Regent” of High Ainon as reward for his role in the Unification Wars. Renowned for his pragmatic brutality.

And there is no Kosoter entry in the Glossary (even Koll has one!).

That might just be because he's an important character? Main characters and the like don't usually get glossary entries... :-\

I wish we knew for sure if Kosoter was related to Soter, I remember someone bringing up that possibility in an older thread (maybe in the TAE Almanac?).
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« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2017, 09:49:26 pm »
That might just be because he's an important character? Main characters and the like don't usually get glossary entries... :-\

Nevermind, Soter is with the Ordeal at Golgotterath during TUC, he cannot be Kosoter.
But if Kosoter is a Ciphrang or something like that it makes sense to give him a name that could pass for Ainoni (there is also a Kusjeter who dies in TWP) and a name similar to that of people who actually fought in the Holy War.
Anyway, there was clearly something going on in Ainon during 4121.

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« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2017, 02:32:26 pm »
Ingiaban, Sristai (4059—4121)—Man-of-the-Tusk, Palatine of the Conriyan province of Kethantei. Murdered by thieves while visiting family in Aoknyssus.

Another one?

Wow! Totally missed this one! Good eye ...
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« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2017, 09:34:49 pm »
seems like you struck something, based on bakker's rafo response.

Seriously impressive catch.
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« Reply #23 on: August 02, 2017, 10:06:02 pm »
seems like you struck something, based on bakker's rafo response.

Seriously impressive catch.

Thanks! Yeah, I saw that. Interesting to think this may have some bearing on TNG ...
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« Reply #24 on: August 02, 2017, 10:19:06 pm »
seems like you struck something, based on bakker's rafo response.

Seriously impressive catch.

I have to agree, great job on this catch, Mondoënghus!


Thanks! Yeah, I saw that. Interesting to think this may have some bearing on TNG ...

I keep wondering if Bakker was congratulating you on finding this rather than hinting at a future development in TNG. I mean, it's hard to see how the surviving characters finding out about the deaths of 4121 would matter (or even work) with Kellhus and presumably everyone involved in the cover up/purge dead. There might be something I'm not thinking of here, though.
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"You prefer to believe women victims to their passions, but we can be at least as calculating as you. Love does not make us weak, but strong."
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« Reply #25 on: August 02, 2017, 10:26:18 pm »

I keep wondering if Bakker was congratulating you on finding this rather than hinting at a future development in TNG. I mean, it's hard to see how the surviving characters finding out about the deaths of 4121 would matter (or even work) with Kellhus and presumably everyone involved in the cover up/purge dead. There might be something I'm not thinking of here, though.

Well, he wasn't speaking directly to me - I'm not on Reddit. But he did seem to respond to the query with a "RAFO", which suggests it may come up somehow in the next series. How? No idea!
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« Reply #26 on: August 02, 2017, 10:32:48 pm »
Well, he wasn't speaking directly to me - I'm not on Reddit. But he did seem to respond to the query with a "RAFO", which suggests it may come up somehow in the next series. How? No idea!

Ah, sorry about that, I thought it might be you with a different username since this was the topic being brought up. :-[
I'm really curious to how this would work, maybe the 4121 conspiracy goes even deeper than we all thought?
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-Anasûrimbor Kayûtas (The Great Ordeal, chapter 13)

"You prefer to believe women victims to their passions, but we can be at least as calculating as you. Love does not make us weak, but strong."
-Ykoriana of the Masks (The Third God, chapter 27)

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« Reply #27 on: August 02, 2017, 10:36:54 pm »
It is difficult for me to understand how this purge will have some actual and present relevance in the TNG series.
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« Reply #28 on: August 02, 2017, 11:59:33 pm »
It is difficult for me to understand how this purge will have some actual and present relevance in the TNG series.

Honestly, I can't immediately see how it does either. But unless the "RAFO" was not meant for that question, then it seems that he's saying that it does come up at some point in the future.

An Atrocity Tale, perhaps?
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« Reply #29 on: August 03, 2017, 02:44:42 am »
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I keep wondering if Bakker was congratulating you on finding this rather than hinting at a future development in TNG. I mean, it's hard to see how the surviving characters finding out about the deaths of 4121 would matter (or even work) with Kellhus and presumably everyone involved in the cover up/purge dead. There might be something I'm not thinking of here, though.

I keep thinking that wherever Kellhus is, hi soul (Decapitant?), that in TNG we will get flashbacks about how things went up til the start of TAE. The Diamos, deals struck with Gods and so on. I think that would be really neat. Maybe people relating stories whom were with Kellhus, i dunno.
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