How many were the original Dunyain refugees?

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« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2014, 11:37:48 pm »
Maybe the whole 'nonman blood in the Anasurimbor line' caused some of the dunyain to 'think' similarly to their nonman antecedents.  So, the similarities Kel notices between the TT Halls and the mansion were a result of subtle genetic coding of dunyain thought patterns through nonman DNA, and was evidenced in their architectural and philosophical similarities.

Hey, it could happen.  Seriously.
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« Reply #31 on: February 28, 2014, 05:32:19 pm »
There it is, a blending of the outcomes. I could see it happening... Stranger things have occured in Earwa. I really want there to be nonman blood in that famliy tree. It would let my brain relax and allow "fantasy" to be a satisfactory answer.
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« Reply #32 on: March 06, 2014, 05:06:25 am »
Notation that I had mentioned elsewhere but I do think we need to consider Yatwer's role in Dunyain pregnancy.
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« Reply #33 on: April 12, 2014, 11:44:10 pm »
Nonman blood in the Anasurimbor line might make the nonmen more disposed to strike a deal with Celmomas on the construction of Ishual above a mansion.

Celmomas "Can I build a secret fort on top of your old place?"
Nil'giccas "Sure cuz, you family."

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« Reply #34 on: April 15, 2014, 03:53:08 pm »
Or "Sure, but only if I can have secret breeding program with the goal of eventually reviving the Nonman race"
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« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2014, 05:11:58 pm »
Or "Sure, but only if I can have secret breeding program with the goal of eventually reviving the Nonman race"

Sweet!  If that actually works, I would love for Bakker to write a book about the New Generation of nonmen and how different they are from the last remnants of the old.  I think they could have a hard time understanding each other.  :P

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« Reply #36 on: May 02, 2014, 07:21:46 am »
Notation that I had mentioned elsewhere but I do think we need to consider Yatwer's role in Dunyain pregnancy.
I never got the impression that Kellhus was at all surprised at his breeding difficulties. He was exceedingly careful in choosing Esmenet as his mate in the first place. So either Yatwer fucks up ALL Dunyain pregnancies, not just Kellhus' and Moe's, or it really is just genetic drift.

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« Reply #37 on: May 05, 2014, 01:11:33 pm »
Technically, we don't really know if Esmenet's nameless ones are different from traditional Dunyain defectives and so far in TAE we don't really have Kellhus' reaction to anything to substantiate our thoughts either way.

I'm interested to see how the Yatwer/genetics interaction plays out...
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« Reply #38 on: May 05, 2014, 03:51:22 pm »
Not sure on Yatwer genetics, seem more technical than fantasy.

Typical defective Dunyain is an interesting idea. I doubt the Dunyain would have been able to survive 2000 years if they had the same frequency of birth defects as Esmi has had. Though it is possible that it has slowly gotten worse over time.
Maybe Moenghus was sent out to see if the worldborn women had the same problem bearing Dunyain children.

If it where my money, I'd still put it on genetic drift until we get more info. The particular set of dominant/recessibe traits, as well as strickt breeding controls, might have been enough for the Dunyain to suppress breeding issues. Who knows, maybe without those careful controls the Dunyain would have similar defects as with Esmi's children. Kellhus sees it as worldborn women being inadequate, but maybe its just the screwed up Dunyain lineage.
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« Reply #39 on: August 21, 2014, 05:06:34 pm »
The Dunyain could have been an experiment of the Nonmen to try and breed out whatever the Inchoroi did to them.  That way, there would be Nonmen blood still flowing and eventually revive the Cunoroi race.


Has this already been though of and brought up?  It sounds familiar.

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« Reply #40 on: August 21, 2014, 05:26:22 pm »
Nonman experiment, yes, but as a way to breed out the inchoroi infection, I don't think so. A GJ original.
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