[TUC Spoilers]QUESTION: Mimara's Child/Children

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« on: July 23, 2017, 06:35:02 pm »
Somwehere in TAE, Soma 2.0 told Mimara she was carrying twins, right?

Somewhere in TUC, Mimara births a son.  Does she have a second child?  I recall something somewhere about "the second labour", I think as they were fleeing the encampment for the "safety" of Golgotterath.

Aside from Achamian Jr., does Mimara birth two children for sure, are we unsure, or are we certain there's just the one kid?
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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2017, 06:53:59 pm »
Somwehere in TAE, Soma 2.0 told Mimara she was carrying twins, right?

Somewhere in TUC, Mimara births a son.  Does she have a second child?  I recall something somewhere about "the second labour", I think as they were fleeing the encampment for the "safety" of Golgotterath.

Aside from Achamian Jr., does Mimara birth two children for sure, are we unsure, or are we certain there's just the one kid?

The second twin is stillborn, though you might have missed it as it only comes up in one paragraph. Chapter 19, page 426 (paperback):

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The babe wailed. The mother sobbed. The second birth would be mercifully quick.
Furtive in the celebratory uproar, Esmenet hurriedly cut the cord with Chipmunk, then bundled the blue slip in a swathe of cloth torn from a corpse. The old Wizard would never know what became of it, the dead twin.
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« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2017, 12:25:11 am »
I've been missing little parts like that a lot lately  :-[.  Thanks!!

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« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2017, 08:40:39 am »
I've been missing little parts like that a lot lately  :-[.  Thanks!!

Me too. And the book is so dense, man, that I really need to read it again.
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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2017, 10:44:18 am »
I've been missing little parts like that a lot lately  :-[.  Thanks!!

You're welcome, and don't worry, it's easy to miss things in a book such as TUC. :) I know there are probably many bits and pieces I missed too.
"But you’ve simply made the discovery that Thelli made—only without the benefit of her unerring sense of fashion."
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« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2017, 11:14:58 am »
I've been missing little parts like that a lot lately  :-[.  Thanks!!

You're welcome, and don't worry, it's easy to miss things in a book such as TUC. :) I know there are probably many bits and pieces I missed too.

I've been missing little parts like that a lot lately  :-[.  Thanks!!

Me too. And the book is so dense, man, that I really need to read it again.

Its what happens when you read this books in one, or a few, sittings, reading as fast as possible :P .
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« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2017, 11:32:38 am »
I've been missing little parts like that a lot lately  :-[.  Thanks!!

You're welcome, and don't worry, it's easy to miss things in a book such as TUC. :) I know there are probably many bits and pieces I missed too.

I've been missing little parts like that a lot lately  :-[.  Thanks!!

Me too. And the book is so dense, man, that I really need to read it again.

Its what happens when you read this books in one, or a few, sittings, reading as fast as possible :P .

It was the "meat", the meat (of the book) drove us mad. The more you eat the more you hunger.
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« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2017, 10:39:09 am »
I think the child was stillborn because the No God was resurrected in between the two births.

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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2017, 10:58:18 am »
I think the child was stillborn because the No God was resurrected in between the two births.
It might also be because the Judging Eye requires a stillbirth.

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« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2017, 12:41:00 pm »
Yes. Both of those things. It is our first clue that the No-God is back, as well as being something we knew was going to happen since TJE.
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« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2017, 01:28:56 pm »
Yes. Both of those things. It is our first clue that the No-God is back, as well as being something we knew was going to happen since TJE.
I really don't think anything can be said with certainty.

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« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2017, 02:10:11 pm »
But Soma didn't tell her she was carrying twins. The Survivor did. Right?
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« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2017, 02:16:55 pm »
But Soma didn't tell her she was carrying twins. The Survivor did. Right?

That's right. Soma only told her she was pregnant in TWLW. Koringhus was the one who told her she was having twins in TGO.
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« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2017, 02:24:05 pm »
Soma sensed the stench of 3 in Mimara's urine, IIRC. It's in TWLW somewhere.
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« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2017, 02:31:34 pm »
Soma sensed the stench of 3 in Mimara's urine, IIRC. It's in TWLW somewhere.

I don't remember any mention of a twin pregnancy in TWLW, but it's quite possible I missed it. I'll have to look it up when I can.
"But you’ve simply made the discovery that Thelli made—only without the benefit of her unerring sense of fashion."
-Anasûrimbor Kayûtas (The Great Ordeal, chapter 13)

"You prefer to believe women victims to their passions, but we can be at least as calculating as you. Love does not make us weak, but strong."
-Ykoriana of the Masks (The Third God, chapter 27)