The Second Apocalypse

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Title: The Blasphemer's Guide to Blaspheme
Post by: Madness on August 26, 2014, 04:00:58 pm
And with this post I complete one and begin another of my many dreams.

This is the consolidated monstrosity of most of the relevant content discussions of R. Scott Bakker's The Second Apocalypse on George R.R. Martin's Westeros Literature subforum (http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/forum/11-literature/) over the past decade.

My thought for this thread is that we might come together as a greater fandom of two forums and suss out the wisdom of the Westerosi Bakker noosphere a la A Song of Ice and Fire's The Heretic's Guide to Heresy (http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/98456-the-heretics-guide-to-heresy/).

I will slowly begin to go through the below threads to see if I can find the general themes, arcs, etc, of our collective descent into delusion. I will perpetually update this thread as I can and as others (hopefully) participate in my mad endeavour.

It is my hope that following or during the completion of this damned journey, I might find volunteers to aid me in writing a version of HERESY 100 (http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/105138-heresy-100/) for The Second Apocalypse.

Also, I will be removing/adding threads from this list as I figure out which ones are not speculation on content specifically. I know I missed a few in my endless search. As well, for instance, the Neuroscience, Humanity & Some Occasional Bakker (http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/51552-neuroscience-humanity-some-occasional-bakker/) as well as the Bakker and Women threads are debatable inclusions as are any review, preview, or recommendation threads.

Cheers.

Updated as of Aug 22, 2017:

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Title: Re: The Blasphemer's Guide to Blaspheme
Post by: sologdin on August 26, 2014, 04:17:54 pm
very nice compendium.


is a blaspheme like a phoneme and a grapheme?
Title: Re: The Blasphemer's Guide to Blaspheme
Post by: Aural on August 26, 2014, 06:33:25 pm
Nice idea. I'd say keep the B&W threads, it's all part of the Bakker discussion canon after all.

To clarify, are you going to start discussing specific posts and ideas from those threads?
Title: Re: The Blasphemer's Guide to Blaspheme
Post by: Madness on August 26, 2014, 06:51:08 pm
very nice compendium.


is a blaspheme like a phoneme and a grapheme?

Thanks.

Lol - I think it's probably more like a grapheme ;). I did feel weird about the name but between dissenter's dissent and blasphemer's blaspheme (rather than blaspheming), I felt to blaspheme was best in context of the series and as a nod to Heresy.

Nice idea. I'd say keep the B&W threads, it's all part of the Bakker discussion canon after all.

To clarify, are you going to start discussing specific posts and ideas from those threads?

Check out the linked Heretic's Guide and HERESY 100 above, Ashtinahgma. In the Heretic's Guide someone went through many of the later perpetual Heresy threads and provided a brief description of the dominant discussion in each specific thread. In HERESY 100 a number of Westerosi members wrote little essays consolidating seven of the major speculative threads.

That is what I hope to accomplish here. But feel free to comment on interesting notation, etc, etc, and if conversation pertaining to one specific idea becomes too extensive we can move the posts to more appropriate threads.
Title: Re: The Blasphemer's Guide to Blaspheme
Post by: locke on August 26, 2014, 06:52:33 pm
A collection of my Judging Eye Reread posts:
What Has Come Before (http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/48043-judging-eye-x-re-read/#entry2380044)

Prologue & Chapter One (http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/48043-judging-eye-x-re-read/page-2#entry2386285)

Chapter Two (http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/48043-judging-eye-x-re-read/page-3#entry2386673)

Chapter Three (http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/48043-judging-eye-x-re-read/page-3#entry2388173)

Chapter Four (http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/48043-judging-eye-x-re-read/page-3#entry2389106)

Chapter Five (http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/48043-judging-eye-x-re-read/page-3#entry2390487)

Chapter Five and Chapter six (http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/48043-judging-eye-x-re-read/page-4#entry2392474)

before Cil Aujus (http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/48043-judging-eye-x-re-read/page-4#entry2395838)

Aftermath of Lil' Kel's rampage / The Great Song of the World (http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/48043-judging-eye-x-re-read/page-5#entry2397155)

Sorweel's tree (http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/48043-judging-eye-x-re-read/page-5#entry2398523)



The Last Born (aka non men) (http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/48043-judging-eye-x-re-read/page-6#entry2399982)

Ruminations on Non Man Art, Non man vision, deception and Seswatha (http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/48043-judging-eye-x-re-read/page-6#entry2400820)

Dialectics (http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/48043-judging-eye-x-re-read/page-6#entry2402951)

Chorae, Salt, Purification (http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/48043-judging-eye-x-re-read/page-7#entry2405146)

Close Reading of Mimara's strange Point-of-View, the Flight from Cil Aujus Mega Post (http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/48043-judging-eye-x-re-read/page-7#entry2408063)

Cil Aujus Close Reading: CHORAE (http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/48043-judging-eye-x-re-read/page-8#entry2424985)

Chorae in Cil Aujus continued (http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/48043-judging-eye-x-re-read/page-9#entry2431559)
Title: Re: The Blasphemer's Guide to Blaspheme
Post by: Madness on August 26, 2014, 06:56:41 pm
lockesnow, I'm not sure if I've locked it (I'll check - and it's not locked) but feel free to add these to The Almanac: TAE Edition (http://www.second-apocalypse.com/index.php?board=26.0) in individual chapter threads or simply as one thread consolidating your reread :).
Title: Re: The Blasphemer's Guide to Blaspheme
Post by: Wilshire on August 26, 2014, 10:25:59 pm
Very nice work Madness, and all those who participated in the actual topics. So many thoughts, so little time.
Title: Re: The Blasphemer's Guide to Blaspheme
Post by: Wic on August 27, 2014, 06:52:43 am
I love this already.  I've never dipped myself totally in westeros (although I giggle every time some member brings up the 'guest' that is always looking at the Bakker thread, whenever I'm looking there) - there are some very quality posts there, scattered throughout threads.  Bringing the best of that here seems like the most reasonable act.
Title: Re: The Blasphemer's Guide to Blaspheme
Post by: MrGanondorf on August 27, 2014, 10:25:07 am
WOW--thanks Madness!
Title: Re: The Blasphemer's Guide to Blaspheme
Post by: ivance on August 27, 2014, 07:41:31 pm
Excellent idea. There are so many interesting theories and interpretations that have emerged over at westerns; compiling them into a catchall thread is great for those of us getting ready to embark on a re-read or trying to initiate new readers with the value in RSB's work.
Title: Re: The Blasphemer's Guide to Blaspheme
Post by: Madness on August 28, 2014, 03:05:22 am
Thanks all. I dream to live.
Title: Re: The Blasphemer's Guide to Blaspheme
Post by: Crtha on August 28, 2014, 03:50:54 am
This is neat.
Gotta say, Westeros has the best thread titles.
Title: Re: The Blasphemer's Guide to Blaspheme
Post by: locke on August 29, 2014, 07:03:55 pm
This is neat.
Gotta say, Westeros has the best thread titles.
I try my best.

All typ0s courtesy of Samsung.

Title: Re: The Blasphemer's Guide to Blaspheme
Post by: Madness on August 22, 2017, 01:39:46 pm
Updated.