The Second Apocalypse

Earwa => The Aspect-Emperor => The Unholy Consult => Topic started by: Ciogli on August 07, 2017, 02:03:39 pm

Title: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Ciogli on August 07, 2017, 02:03:39 pm
In the author threads someone suggested Bakker selling Earwa and I think that would be a good idea.  I would love to have some figurines,  Golgotterath with the Golden horns reaching high. The extrinsic gate compare with gweriguh bookended by mighty Corrunc and the other tower, the oblitus. Or the weeping mountain,  Oirunas with his chorae studded armor, Nil giccas, the red ghoul, Cujara cinmoi.  Todd McFarlane does high quality figures,  get someone like somnabulist to design them even people who are not nescesasarily fans of the series would still buy them. Merchandising would probably bring in more money than straight book sales anyway. I'm sure there is some company that would be interested in the rights.
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Wilshire on August 07, 2017, 03:03:40 pm
The only issue I see is the impossibility of having Bakker involved. It might be able to set up basic stuff without garnering too much attention from lawyers - t-shirts, bumper stickers, posters, etc. We could probably host it on our server and link it through this site.

Something more complex, like the physical constructs you are suggesting (which sound awesome!) almost necessarily would need to involve laywers, rights purchasing, etc. More money up front plus soon as Overlook and Bakker get involved, I'd guess things would grind to a screeching halt.

But that won't stop the dream! I'm not a big figurine guy, or nicknaks of any kind, but I'd venture to say that you are right - there's great imagery in the books, we just need to find the creative types to turn it into reality.
Warhammer 40k: Earwa Edition ;) .
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Woden on August 07, 2017, 03:24:21 pm
I never bought a figurine but I swear by the Hundred that I would buy a fucking whole horde of sranc if available.
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Walter on August 07, 2017, 03:32:48 pm
Tee-shirt:

"I crossed the Field Appalling to fight for the Aspect-Emperor and all I got was damnation after all."
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Woden on August 07, 2017, 03:34:41 pm
Tee-shirt:

"I crossed the Field Appalling to fight for the Aspect-Emperor and all I got was damnation after all."

Damnation and a sranc in the ass.
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: H on August 07, 2017, 03:39:43 pm
Tee-shirt:

"I crossed the Field Appalling to fight for the Aspect-Emperor and all I got was damnation after all."

"I survived The Great Ordeal and all I got was damnation (and this lousy t-shirt)."

Agonic Collar - stylish chokers, for your "alternative needs."

We had a thread kind of like this in the old days, when someone made a Wuttešt shirt...
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Duskweaver on August 07, 2017, 03:58:35 pm
On a red baseball cap: "Make The World End Again"

On a T-shirt: "Kelmomas/Samarmas 2020 - A Better Deal (Than Damnation)"
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Likaro on August 07, 2017, 04:58:12 pm
Bakker doesn't even promote his books online in any fashion, and seems to loathe promotion so the odds of him going for this are zero. Bakker would jump out of a window if Hot Topic was selling little metal Chorae necklaces.

I'm also just picturing some little kid getting a realistic Inchoroi toy under the Christmas tree. *Enter Lawsuit*.

I would however, be down with the following bumper stickers to mystify other drivers:


"The Logos is without beginning or end"


"No sobbers on the slog !"


"144,000"


"Curse Likaro!"





Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Wilshire on August 07, 2017, 05:12:49 pm
Lol Likaro, we've gone this far without consent from Bakker, I assume we'll be fine moving forward ;) . Granted, once money starts getting involved, everyone suddenly wants to participate.

a realistic Inchoroi toy under the Christmas tree

Nothing wrong with a 3 legged alien.
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Duskweaver on August 07, 2017, 05:18:35 pm
I assumed this thread was intended to be tongue-in-cheek. For the record, I am strongly against anybody selling Second Apocalypse merchandise against the express wishes of Bakker himself. Just printing some T-shirts for personal use would be OK, I think. But the moment actual money is involved, I think that crosses a line.
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: SuJuroit on August 07, 2017, 05:20:35 pm
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I never bought a figurine but I swear by the Hundred that I would buy a fucking whole horde of sranc if available.

I'd totally buy a sranc figurine, but between RSB being RSB and the fact that sranc are typically depicted as naked and with raging erections, I'm not super optimistic.

How about a Circumfix T-shirt?
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Wilshire on August 07, 2017, 05:27:15 pm
I assumed this thread was intended to be tongue-in-cheek. For the record, I am strongly against anybody selling Second Apocalypse merchandise against the express wishes of Bakker himself. Just printing some T-shirts for personal use would be OK, I think. But the moment actual money is involved, I think that crosses a line.
Plenty of tongue-in-cheekery around, but no, I assume this thread is 100% serious.

What line is crossed, and why? But what if it serves the greater good - couple of t-shirts and a sranc figurine funding all of Bakker's future writing?

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Follow up, actual money is always and already involved. Server space, domain names, hosting sites, it ain't free I'll tell you that. Mind you, I'm not disagreeing with you, just curious.
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Duskweaver on August 07, 2017, 05:41:41 pm
What line is crossed, and why? But what if it serves the greater good - couple of t-shirts and a sranc figurine funding all of Bakker's future writing?
Making money out of somebody else's intellectual property in violation of their wishes is immoral. It is no different from theft as far as I'm concerned.

Obviously, if Bakker says it's OK to sell stuff in order to cover the costs of running this site, then that is a different matter. But unless he consents, his world is not yours to sell.
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: SuJuroit on August 07, 2017, 05:55:57 pm
And yeah, I'd assumed it went without saying that any merchandizing of the Second Apocalypse would hinge on RSB's consent.
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Woden on August 07, 2017, 06:10:35 pm
Obviously. I hope he consent. And why not doing more promotion of his books or at least let others keep his page actualized?
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Cnaiur vs Karsa vs Drogo on August 07, 2017, 06:18:12 pm
I asked him in the AMA how he'd feel about replica chorae in titanium or steel or even in something darker like zircon. He did not answer me. I'd still really love a chorae.
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Woden on August 07, 2017, 06:50:41 pm
I asked him in the AMA how he'd feel about replica chorae in titanium or steel or even in something darker like zircon. He did not answer me. I'd still really love a chorae.

Sad.
It's a pity that he doesn't do more about promotion or merchandise. With a little effort (and I think this is a matter more of his agents than of Bakker himself), the sales will increase a lot. Nowadays a solid social media presence is fundamental.
Not having that in mind it is a problem.

Think about what happened to Sapkowski, he sold his rights (only for videogames and videogames merchandise) of the Witcher series for a ridiculous amount (I think 20.000$ or so, and without a sales percentage) and now CD Projekt Red has earned tons of millions. Obviously it was twelve years ago and Sapkowski hadn't a clue that videogames could be the monster market that are today, and surely he has more readers now thanks for the videogames (like GRRM for the TV series), but what a fucking mistake he made.

And seriously what are agents for nowadays? What is their fucking job?
 If an inferior and poorer written series (IMHO) as Rothfuss' had a big promotion and in consequence sales, why not Bakker? He deserves better as the terrific writer he is.

There are lots of ciphrang nerds (like us) waiting in the Outside to devour any brand new product. Why closing the world? Maybe selling figurines and spending time in promotion are damnation for writers, but it's not so fucking bad when that can help a lot in the bank account and to achieve a greater audience.
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Wilshire on August 07, 2017, 07:01:11 pm
What line is crossed, and why? But what if it serves the greater good - couple of t-shirts and a sranc figurine funding all of Bakker's future writing?
Making money out of somebody else's intellectual property in violation of their wishes is immoral. It is no different from theft as far as I'm concerned.

I'd have to agree, unfortunately, as I'd like to raise an army of figurata to march us to the publication of TNG.

Obviously, if Bakker says it's OK to sell stuff in order to cover the costs of running this site, then that is a different matter.
Just making the argument. I have no real interest, and the costs are paltry such as they are.

unless he consents, his world is not yours to sell.
I very much like this line. You're quite quotable, Duskweaver :) .
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Lets all assume for the sake of conversation that we live in a fantasy world where Bakker sanctions such things as discussed here. For the record, I doubt this would ever happen.

Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Wilshire on August 07, 2017, 07:10:20 pm
Spoiler tagged because its kind of off topic.

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More on topic:
Earwa: Total War was almost a thing once (Bakker mentioned it on TPB once or twice). That would have been great :D .

PON Amazon original movie (tv series?) also was once in the cards, but fell through.
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Woden on August 07, 2017, 07:14:19 pm
Earwa TW would have been fucking awesome and it doesn't piss me off like the current Warhammer TW.
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Likaro on August 07, 2017, 07:26:34 pm
Sranc faction is totally OP. Needs balancing in the next patch.
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Woden on August 07, 2017, 07:35:18 pm
Sranc faction is totally OP. Needs balancing in the next patch.

HAHAHAH

The good thing is the traditional poor AI would not be a problem for the sranc faction,  they are fucking crazy rapers so why bother about strategy at all.
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Wilshire on August 07, 2017, 07:44:05 pm
Earwa TW would have been fucking awesome and it doesn't piss me off like the current Warhammer TW.
Sranc faction is totally OP. Needs balancing in the next patch.
Sranc faction is totally OP. Needs balancing in the next patch.

HAHAHAH

The good thing is the traditional poor AI would not be a problem for the sranc faction,  they are fucking crazy rapers so why bother about strategy at all.

Inchoroi are an interesting cross between protoss and zerg, but largely just zerg with remnant tech. Humans obviously terran, throw in some nonmen heroes though, and its all iron age tech so basically Warcraft: Earwa.

That's just how I imagine it though since I've never played TW in any depth - I get the concept of grand strategy but my heart lies with starcraft.
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Ciogli on August 07, 2017, 09:26:26 pm
Of course Bakker would be involved,  it is his world after all.  He would get the ball rolling and approve designs.  I used to have transformers figures as a kid,  collect enough and you could recreate the battle of Pir Pahal that Akka saw in Cil Aujas complete with Sil and Nin Janjin.  Nonman chariots and the Tall,  sranc and bashrag,  cinderswords,  the imagery is there for it.
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Likaro on August 07, 2017, 10:33:57 pm
Not buying unless black semen is involved.
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: TLEILAXU on August 08, 2017, 03:50:17 am
It's a pity that he doesn't do more about promotion or merchandise. With a little effort (and I think this is a matter more of his agents than of Bakker himself), the sales will increase a lot. Nowadays a solid social media presence is fundamental.
Not having that in mind it is a problem.
The only thing you need is a facebook profile and maybe a twitter that announces new books, previews and blog essays. You don't have to ask your readers to donate to your patreon or like and subscribe like some youtubing douchebag, you just have to announce things.

Also, a SA RTS would be awesome. Rushing to tier 3 for those Soggomant-armored Inversi my man.
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: EdwardReynolds on August 08, 2017, 08:34:09 am
Obviously. I hope he consent. And why not doing more promotion of his books or at least let others keep his page actualized?

Bakker has stated several times he is interested in no alternate revenue streams bar book sales. Hes a 50 year old dinosaur blinkered to the modern age, which is his own prerogative.
I just got a plain t shirt, some spray paint and cut out a Circumfix stencil by hand. Boom. Its not hard to whip stuff up for your self, if he wont take your money give it to people who will sell you the materials to make your own fan items. Just dont sell what you create and theres nothing anyone can do about it :)

Made a "I bear your fathers and brothers upon my arms" over a red horse skull shirt years ago. It aint hard to come up with dope ideas!
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Zealously on August 08, 2017, 09:35:50 am
I never bought a figurine but I swear by the Hundred that I would buy a fucking whole horde of sranc if available.

Imagine that! A thousand mini-Sranc, drowning the (kitchen table) horizon, the shadow of the (ceiling-mounted lamp-)Horns falling on them...
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Woden on August 08, 2017, 09:37:49 am
I never bought a figurine but I swear by the Hundred that I would buy a fucking whole horde of sranc if available.

Imagine that! A thousand mini-Sranc, drowning the (kitchen table) horizon, the shadow of the (ceiling-mounted lamp-)Horns falling on them...

Anb black seed everywhere.
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Cnaiur vs Karsa vs Drogo on August 08, 2017, 08:34:44 pm
Wouldnt a titanium chorae in a leather, triple-crescent-marked pouch be awesome???

Why not make this??? Whyyyy?????
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Yellow on August 09, 2017, 08:59:33 am

Anb black seed everywhere.

... Eesh.
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: False Man on August 09, 2017, 11:49:54 am
Now I am thinking about a t-shirt with a smiling Stalin and the phrase "Where you fall as fodder, I descend as hunger."
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Wilshire on August 09, 2017, 12:12:37 pm
...

... Eesh.
I always find it fascinating how obsessed people are with this topic, and that it seems to be a funny joke each time its said (though for me its always like 'that guy' you know that still thinks 'your mom' jokes are funny).

Btw, if you are interested, you should check out Malazan, one of the books fairly drips with the stuff (Reaper's Gale I believe).

Now I am thinking about a t-shirt with a smiling Stalin and the phrase "Where you fall as fodder, I descend as hunger."

Wow. That's dark.


Other than a hundred or so bookmarks, all I've got is a shirt from Disciple of the Dog that says "I'd rather be masturbating".
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Woden on August 09, 2017, 12:16:28 pm
Now I am thinking about a t-shirt with a smiling Stalin and the phrase "Where you fall as fodder, I descend as hunger."

I WANT ONE.
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Yellow on August 09, 2017, 03:08:55 pm

Btw, if you are interested, you should check out Malazan, one of the books fairly drips with the stuff (Reaper's Gale I believe).

Now *there's* a series which disappeared up its own arse. Read all the Erikson main sequence ones, which were excellent up to book 5, then increasingly self - indulgent until the end.  The Esslemont ones were just dreadful.
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Woden on August 09, 2017, 03:25:03 pm

Btw, if you are interested, you should check out Malazan, one of the books fairly drips with the stuff (Reaper's Gale I believe).

Now *there's* a series which disappeared up its own arse. Read all the Erikson main sequence ones, which were excellent up to book 5, then increasingly self - indulgent until the end.  The Esslemont ones were just dreadful.

I read the ten books of Erikson in a row in a crazy slog of slogs some years ago and since then I am unable to try the Esslemont series (only read the first two) and the Kharkanas trilogy. I still have a malazan overdose.
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: SuJuroit on August 09, 2017, 03:40:25 pm

Btw, if you are interested, you should check out Malazan, one of the books fairly drips with the stuff (Reaper's Gale I believe).

Now *there's* a series which disappeared up its own arse. Read all the Erikson main sequence ones, which were excellent up to book 5, then increasingly self - indulgent until the end.  The Esslemont ones were just dreadful.

I found Malazan to not so much resemble a story, but rather a series of play sessions involving a small child and a collection of action figures.  Nothing in the universe was consistent or made any kind of sense, just a string of ad hoc events playing out according to some unknowable whim.  A sort of literary version of Axe Cop.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Webcomic/AxeCop (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Webcomic/AxeCop)
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Woden on August 09, 2017, 03:55:10 pm
I basically agree with you, but I think that especially the first five books contain good epic stuff that make the whole series readable.
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Cynical Cat on August 10, 2017, 11:54:22 am

Btw, if you are interested, you should check out Malazan, one of the books fairly drips with the stuff (Reaper's Gale I believe).

Now *there's* a series which disappeared up its own arse. Read all the Erikson main sequence ones, which were excellent up to book 5, then increasingly self - indulgent until the end.  The Esslemont ones were just dreadful.

My opinion isn't quite as harsh, but I otherwise agree.
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Khaine on August 10, 2017, 12:07:20 pm
Second Apocalypse? The Ancient Aliens did it!

Printed on a t-shirt

 :P
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Wilshire on August 10, 2017, 12:29:36 pm
I basically agree with you, but I think that especially the first five books contain good epic stuff that make the whole series readable.

Everyone, there are a few Malazan threads, if you'd like to discuss further. Try this one (http://www.second-apocalypse.com/index.php?topic=1458.0). FWIF, I really enjoyed it, but there are definetly criticisms to be leveled at it.

Second Apocalypse? The Ancient Aliens did it!

Printed on a t-shirt

 :P
Picture of an Inchoroi instead of the History channel "Aliens!" guy.
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Francis Buck's Crush on August 10, 2017, 03:17:11 pm
...

... Eesh.
I always find it fascinating how obsessed people are with this topic, and that it seems to be a funny joke each time its said (though for me its always like 'that guy' you know that still thinks 'your mom' jokes are funny).

Btw, if you are interested, you should check out Malazan, one of the books fairly drips with the stuff (Reaper's Gale I believe).
This. For some reason, everybody who mentions the books anywhere MUST also accompany it with a Black Seed mention, even though it's a very minor part of the story.
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: H on August 10, 2017, 03:22:41 pm
This. For some reason, everybody who mentions the books anywhere MUST also accompany it with a Black Seed mention, even though it's a very minor part of the story.

You can build a thousand bridges, but you spill a little black seed once in a while and forever are you "The Black Seed Guy."
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Madness on August 11, 2017, 12:15:29 pm
Other than a hundred or so bookmarks, all I've got is a shirt from Disciple of the Dog that says "I'd rather be masturbating".

Fuck, I hope you brought this for tonight or tomorrow!

This. For some reason, everybody who mentions the books anywhere MUST also accompany it with a Black Seed mention, even though it's a very minor part of the story.

You can build a thousand bridges, but you spill a little black seed once in a while and forever are you "The Black Seed Guy."

Truth.
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: solipsisticurge on August 11, 2017, 09:12:25 pm
I would buy the hell out of Total War: The First Holy War.

I always envisioned a game with Total War combat mechanics, but outside of battles, a more RPG/adventure framework, covering the manipulations, faction intrigue, etc. of the story. Kind of a good ground for "what if?" segments, where different avenues are pursued, different characters convinced to different degrees by varying means, etc. So you can have a Holy War led by Conphas, or with Conphas as Kellhus' primary devotee, or Kellhus dying on the Circumfix because Cnaiur died earlier on and can't slaughter Sarcellus, or a million other ways the series could have played out with different decisions on the part of the characters.

You win the game by keeping Athjeari alive through to the end.
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Madness on August 15, 2017, 04:03:59 pm
You win the game by keeping Athjeari alive through to the end.

Amazing!
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Wilshire on August 15, 2017, 04:32:30 pm
You win the game by keeping Athjeari alive through to the end.
Ah look, another of the Athjeariati. Athjeari's Wind Mills? (do you call the non-believers Athjeariatrics  >:(
 lol)

Anyway, your game would be way better than a straight Total War conversion. Again, I'd buy lol.
As you described it, it kind of plays out as various versions of Kellhus' probability trances, cycling through "What If's" except you have to play through a whole campaign.

Could do something even more meta and make Kellhus the 'main character'. If you split it into campaign levels, each one you'd set out to collapse the probability curves, lending to 2-3 different endings for each level, further affecting each next campaign level. Necessarily, at some point if you took the wrong paths you get stuck at a dead end and end up an unavoidable casualty forcing you to restart or find an old save that's before your point of no return.
Start of each level you advance real Kellhus to the end of the story, do some 'real interactions', then probability trance again, play out the scenario, advance real Kellhus, etc.

Hmm, or maybe play it out in 'real space', but each time you die you respawn at save points which are ostensibly the same thing as described above - like 'oh, you're in his head and that line of actions lead to your death, try again'. Essentially Dark Souls (and/or Assassin's Creed), but you're Kellhus, at bonfires you sit down and meditate/probability trance. Beat the game, unlock "White-Luck" difficulty (or Survivor Difficulty) - no saves, death brings you all the way back to Ishual. "Any wound save that which is fatal". (Narindar Achievement - an entire play-through without a single hit taken on White-Luck difficulty).

DLC could include Cnaiur in his early campaigns against the Empire, Cishaurim infiltration of the SS, scholastic wars, or go more into Horror and do Survivor in Ishual, raiding the Ark, etc. An infinite number of possibilities ;)
Full expansions or alternate campaigns, you pick Achamian, Cnaiur, Conphas, etc. to play through. Same war, different set of influences. And who doesn't want to burn down the Sareotic Library, the SS Compound, murder a few Ciphrang. (Achivement: Why do I always get the Stone? - lose to Xin while playing Benjuka as Achamian).
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: solipsisticurge on August 15, 2017, 07:06:59 pm
Ultimate difficulty mode: Kellhus dies in the wasteland, and you must seize the Holy Warband Leweth.

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Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Wilshire on August 15, 2017, 08:00:25 pm
Ultimate difficulty mode: Kellhus dies in the wasteland, and you must seize the Holy Warband Leweth.

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lol. Just a bunch of hours of gameplay of you getting killed over and over by Mek. "wakes up, starts running, *dies - arrow*. Wakes up, starts running *dies - sranc*. Wakes up, starts running *dies - cold (forgot jacket)*. Wakes up, ok fuck this lets fight *dies - magic*"
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: ThoughtsOfThelli on August 15, 2017, 08:10:16 pm
Ultimate difficulty mode: Kellhus dies in the wasteland, and you must seize the Holy Warband Leweth.

Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk


lol. Just a bunch of hours of gameplay of you getting killed over and over by Mek. "wakes up, starts running, *dies - arrow*. Wakes up, starts running *dies - sranc*. Wakes up, starts running *dies - cold (forgot jacket)*. Wakes up, ok fuck this lets fight *dies - magic*"

It would suck so much, and you'd not even need to get to Mek! Just imagine how many times you would die by getting distracted by twigs, being fascinated by the trees and whatnot, as Sranc appeared out of nowhere.
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: TwoMinutesToApocalypse on August 15, 2017, 11:32:10 pm
Has anybody ever made any shirts related to the Second Apocalypse?  Or anything really?  I would be very willing to straight up throw cash where I can find anything related to these series.
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Wilshire on August 16, 2017, 12:26:55 pm
Has anybody ever made any shirts related to the Second Apocalypse?  Or anything really?  I would be very willing to straight up throw cash where I can find anything related to these series.

Yes, there are several TSA shirts out there. Making a shirt is pretty easy, just google "make a custom shirt" or some nonsense, load some text or an imagine, print.
There's nowhere to buy an 'official' shirt or other swag because Bakker has no shop, and therefore no way to funnel funds to him via these purchases. We are forced to give our money to undeserving places not associated with TSA/Bakker.
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: SalvatorDunyain on August 16, 2017, 04:20:59 pm
I think t-shirts and The like would be awesome. This is exciting!!!
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Madness on August 16, 2017, 05:28:46 pm
Has anybody ever made any shirts related to the Second Apocalypse?  Or anything really?  I would be very willing to straight up throw cash where I can find anything related to these series.

Yes, there are several TSA shirts out there. Making a shirt is pretty easy, just google "make a custom shirt" or some nonsense, load some text or an imagine, print.
There's nowhere to buy an 'official' shirt or other swag because Bakker has no shop, and therefore no way to funnel funds to him via these purchases. We are forced to give our money to undeserving places not associated with TSA/Bakker.

Why, at least MG and I wore shirts directly to the series over the weekend.

Also, though it is definitely as easy to make and order custom shirts as Wilshire mentions, a redditor has experimented with a few pretty good ones (https://www.reddit.com/r/bakker/comments/6tiwij/tshirts/).

And Thing called Sarcellus long ago offered his t-shirt making connections/services here.
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: H on August 16, 2017, 05:31:05 pm
Although less permanent, you can also just buy inkjet printable transfers and make your own shirts at home.
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Woden on August 16, 2017, 06:41:09 pm
Has anybody ever made any shirts related to the Second Apocalypse?  Or anything really?  I would be very willing to straight up throw cash where I can find anything related to these series.

Yes, there are several TSA shirts out there. Making a shirt is pretty easy, just google "make a custom shirt" or some nonsense, load some text or an imagine, print.
There's nowhere to buy an 'official' shirt or other swag because Bakker has no shop, and therefore no way to funnel funds to him via these purchases. We are forced to give our money to undeserving places not associated with TSA/Bakker.

Why, at least MG and I wore shirts directly to the series over the weekend.

Also, though it is definitely as easy to make and order custom shirts as Wilshire mentions, a redditor has experimented with a few pretty good ones (https://www.reddit.com/r/bakker/comments/6tiwij/tshirts/).

And Thing called Sarcellus long ago offered his t-shirt making connections/services here.

Nice ones.
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: SalvatorDunyain on December 06, 2017, 01:32:30 pm
Those t-shirts that Redditor made are awesome.  What is the link for Thing Called Sarcellus?  It wasn't a hyper link in the post.  I have a few ideas and I would like to see how hard this is to do.  Im not interested in making money; i just want to rock and support my fav books.  Also, if we buy shirts from that guy with the 3 designs do you think Bakker would get upset?  Just wondering....
Title: Re: Merchandising the Second Apocalypse
Post by: Wilshire on December 06, 2017, 02:56:30 pm
That's a member here, thus why there wasn't a link.

You can see his profile here (http://www.second-apocalypse.com/index.php?action=profile;u=15261) and send him a PM if you'd like. 
This was probably the post (http://www.second-apocalypse.com/index.php?topic=985.msg22752#msg22752) being referenced :). Some other links in that thread from years ago that might still be click-able.