The Second Apocalypse
Miscellaneous Chatter => General Misc. => Topic started by: MSJ on December 18, 2017, 08:15:52 pm
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Figured I'd start at thread where am lover of NFL can congregate and talk trash. Ill begin.
Been a Washington Redkins fan all my life. We had some good years when I was young. Williams and our offense destroyed the Broncos (Gary Clark WR, one of my favorite skins ever. Great game. Beating Buffalo with the great QB Mark Rypien (that's sarcasm, hope you got it.).
Then well its been a downhill slide since then. Multiple Coaches, Players, Overpaid Veteran players and just horrible front office decisions.
Now, we have Cousins, who'll we'll probably lose, because we paid the man. He's the only reason we stay in game. We have a ton of injuries. Should've paid Cousins last year, I pray he stays, because when we're healthy, we have the ability to be a playoff team, with a couple pieces, a contender.
So, introduce yourself and team. And, tell us your joyous years (fuck you Pats fans), or you're miserable or middling years of football fandom.
I think if Wentz didn't go down, Eagles would be would've represented the NFC. Its more open now, but I think Foles can get the job done. Thats a talented team.
AFC, Pats. Enough said. Though I hope they get blasted by someone in the playoffs. Though, as much as I hate Brady, he's a football god.
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Go Bucs!
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Go Bucs!
Not looking to good for them Bucs..
No story as to how your fandom came about. Your highs, your lows, what you look for in the future.
Hell, I meant this as a place just to bullshit about football.
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That scant reply was to be funny given you spilled your heart out for the Redskins ... nevermind.
Big Buccaneer fan, been a Tampa native for 45 years now. Dolphins were my first favorite team when I was a young boy in New York ( upstate ). We used to flip football cards and Bob Griese was the first card I won ( no kidding, 1972 season - of course it's long gone now, LOL - could be worthless card, don't know ), so Dolphins were coincidentally my first favorite team even though we hadn't considered moving to Florida yet - so I love both teams. Dan Marino never winning the big dance was painful.
Watching the Bucs win a Super Bowl was one of the funnest times of my life - the party with my brothers was a blast and forever will love that team. It's been painful as of late, really painful given the talent we sport, but suffer a poor record. Time for the owners to look at themselves in the mirror and realize they are the problem.
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I've been a Jets fan my whole life. Used to go watch them practice on Long Island as a kid too. Liking the Jets have taught me well to never expect anything good and always be pleasantly surprised if anything but the worst happens.
Seriously though, the Jets are always some amount of bad. Maybe not-so-bad at times, but they are pretty much guaranteed to somehow manage to lose games. In fact, they are probably one of the top 5 worst-run sports teams in the United States.
All I really care about is someone just beating the damn Patriots though. Hate the Patriots so much, it's so gross how teams give games away to them. The best moment of every NFL season is the part where the Patriots are eliminated.
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You know, it's funny, Bucs were laughing stock of all of sports being the losingest franchise in sports history ( a fact, at least in US history ), but I remember going to games in High School and not even having to pay for a ticket ( scalpers would just give them away once the game started ). I got to see the 85 championship Bears for a small amount of money ( they annihilated us, of course, but still got to see them ). It was really cool being a poor kid seeing so many professional football games, sitting where ever I wanted to. It was good times in light of us being so terrible with more than 1/2 the stands filled with opposing team's colors.
Our coach, John McKay, had perhaps the funniest come back comment to a reporter ever ... he was asked abut the Bucs execution and he replied he was in favor of it.
I remember legendary Jets/Dolphins games in the 80's ... the scores would be like 55 - 49, like the defenses just stayed home, those were awesome.
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H. Jets have really surprised me this year. And, they've actually been quite competent. Good D. Decent O-Line. Just think if they had a decent QB, with a few weapons around him. And, hell yea, I'm for any team facing the Pats. Though I do respect what the Pats have built, a true dynasty.
TaoHorror, at least you won a SB in this century, your not allowed to co.plain about losing. I don't understand their record. They have plenty of offensive weapons, maybe a bad D (don't watch them much)? But, Jameson is a elite QB and they have pieces to build around. Us put their woes to coaching or front office.
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H. Jets have really surprised me this year. And, they've actually been quite competent. Good D. Decent O-Line. Just think if they had a decent QB, with a few weapons around him. And, hell yea, I'm for any team facing the Pats. Though I do respect what the Pats have built, a true dynasty.
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TaoHorror, at least you won a SB in this century, your not allowed to co.plain about losing. I don't understand their record. They have plenty of offensive weapons, maybe a bad D (don't watch them much)? But, Jameson is a elite QB and they have pieces to build around. Us put their woes to coaching or front office.
Exactly, we don't have an excuse for our poor record. I'm putting blame on the owners, we don't have a culture of winning with the team. We should have swagger for how much offensive talent we have. The Defense is an enigma - at times they shine bright, other times dull ... bizarre, can't get my head around it. It seems to me we have the talent to be a playoff team at the very least, if not outright a SB winner.
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Exactly, we don't have an excuse for our poor record. I'm putting blame on the owners, we don't have a culture of winning with the team. We should have swagger for how much offensive talent we have. The Defense is an enigma - at times they shine bright, other times dull ... bizarre, can't get my head around it. It seems to me we have the talent to be a playoff team at the very least, if not outright a SB winner.
I agree 100! Penty of talent on that team. Id say with a coaching change, hence a culture change, Bucs could contenders. I don't know about SB champs, maybe in a few years.
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H. Jets have really surprised me this year. And, they've actually been quite competent. Good D. Decent O-Line. Just think if they had a decent QB, with a few weapons around him. And, hell yea, I'm for any team facing the Pats. Though I do respect what the Pats have built, a true dynasty.
Honestly that has been the Jet's story for years and years. Even when they had a decent QB, they still found a way to squander all the talent. Then, of course, Pennington was simply just not built to take NFL hits without getting injured, unfortunately. The Jets aren't the Browns though, they aren't thoroughly terrible, but they are always just middling. Rarely bad enough to get a great draft pick, rarely good enough to do more than steal some wins.
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All I really care about is someone just beating the damn Patriots though. Hate the Patriots so much, it's so gross how teams give games away to them. The best moment of every NFL season is the part where the Patriots are eliminated.
As a fan of the former St. Louis Rams, I second the Patriots hate. Like MSJ, I respect them as an organization and a great team with talented players, but I will never root for them. And it is always good to see them lose.
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Appears we don't have any Bostonian Bakker fans ... nobody from the New England area of USA lurking in these forums?
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Appears we don't have any Bostonian Bakker fans ... nobody from the New England area of USA lurking in these forums?
Oh, there here. Just waiting to see if the Pats win it all before their fandom begins.
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As a fan of the former St. Louis Rams, I second the Patriots hate. Like MSJ, I respect them as an organization and a great team with talented players, but I will never root for them. And it is always good to see them lose.
So, who's your team now? I live in WV=no pro sports teams. So, I can't understand how it would feel to have your team move away. Around here, most people like the Skins, Steelers, Cowboys and your usual front runners who have a different team every 3 years. So, who ya root for now?
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I've always rooted for the Kansas City Chiefs as well, since St. Louis was without an NFL team from 1987 to 1995 (more or less). My dad, my brothers and I used to drive up to KC once a year for a game. Great memories.....
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Chiefs. I thought they was gonna run away the AFC West....then, what happened?
Kareem Hunt is a beast and a great surprise for my FF team! I like Alex Smith, but think Mahonnes will be a good NFL QB. Cheifs have a bright future!
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Fantasy Football has been delicious for me this year. My team was the 2nd lowest scoring team in our league of 10 teams, yet I find myself in the bowl game, bwaa ha ha haaaaa! I love it! Got lucky with other teams having their bad weeks against me and then I got hot in the end and playoffs. One more win and I get it all! I bullshit you not, my team is called The Erratics - and yes, PON inspired. When I re-joined 8 years back ( I had left for a few years ), the other players made fun of my name, saying it was bland and juvenile. I explained to them it's the noun, not the verb which means I hate what I do, which pretty much sums up my participation in this league ( I was begged to come back, another dropped out at last minute and they were stuck ).
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I've never played in a Fantasy Football league. What's a good number of participants in a league? It'd be interesting to form a TSA Forum FF league.
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I've never played in a Fantasy Football league. What's a good number of participants in a league? It'd be interesting to form a TSA Forum FF league.
I think 10 is the optimal number ( there isn't a "perfect" number ). 8 teams and every team is stacked and you struggle to know who to start. 10 thins the talent some and makes it a bit easier to determine your starting line up.
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Mr. Gannondorf/Bakkerfans roots for the Pats.
I'm an NYG fan in my early 30s so it goes without saying what my highs are. Both sides of my family are from North Jersey, both passed the Giants on to me. I would actually say the last few years might be the darkest times I've seen. Even the 11-5 season we had last year, it was embarrassing how devoid of talent and coaching the offense obviously was. It's just absurd that a team can go so many years with the same deficiencies at the same positions and only fire the GM now. I also knew McAdoo was a bad decision but assumed I just wasn't as smart as the lifelong football execs in the organization. Funny how that turned out.
Really looking forward to the playoffs this year, both wildcard races are kinda crazy right now, especially the NFC one. For the Superbowl I'd like to see the Jaguars and Vikings go at it.
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Need a NFL thread to get Bolivar to make an appearance!
Yea, we're natural enemies, as both our teams are in the NFC East. This year we don't have the same competitiveness that we usually do, but our division is usually tops in the NFL. Tough division to win, compared to say....uh the Pats. The should change the name to AFC Pansies!
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I'd consider myself an "honorary" Saints fan now though, so it would be neat to see them go the distance, even though I really don't think they will.
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Watched the Bills win and the Bengals win to send the Bills to the playoffs for the first time since 2000 and the music city miracle (illegal lateral pass that didn't get overturned causing the Bills to lose the game).
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It's very cool to see the Bills make the playoffs, especially when they did so when the Bengals eliminated the Ravens on a late touchdown by Bengals QB
Andy Dalton.
I hear that upwards of $70K has been donated by Bills fans to a charity sponsored by Andy Dalton.
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I seen that about Dalton. Only reason I ever had any interest in the Bills is because Tyrod Taylor is my FF QB. And, I was pissed when the benched him for one game. I was going good in that league til that moment.
I'm really interested in how the Skins handle Cousins. They can franchise him again at 34.6 mil, that's more than like 10mil then the highest paid QB. I can't see them doing it honestly. But, how do we let him walk? He threw for over 4,000 yards and 20 TD's. All while not having, imho, a WR worth a lick, Jordan Reese (TE) injured, and a plethora of other injuries. So, he put up great numbers with below average NFL talent. We just have to give the man a contract and be done with it. Its not worth resetting our franchise again over. But, Cousins holds all the cards, yet hasn't won a playoff game. And, that what the organization keeps saying when any word of contract comes up. Its a team sport and I don't care how good one player is, he won't by himself, get you to the playoffs or, he'll, 8 wins for that matter. Pay the man and build around. He's as good as any other young QB in the league at the moment.
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I made it to the finals with my "poor" FF team, but lost the final game - doh! It was close and the cat I lost to is cool, so it's ok.
I was at the Bucs final game of the season with my son ... awesome, awesome, awesome! Watching that last second 40 or so yard pass to win it blew us away. And it was especially tasty given we had Saints fans behind us and for most of the game, everyone was cordial ... but as the game was nearing it's conclusion, it was shaping up Saints were going to win and then the fans behind us got obnoxious and bragging and disrespectful ( not a huge deal since they're spending money in my town and they didn't use profanity nor did they seem drunk, but still ... ). Me and my son were quiet and left it alone, but when we took it from them, we exploded! hee hee hee hee ...
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Tao, when I was 26 or so before we had kids we went with my buddy to Orlando for vacation with his family. We got tickets to a WVU vs USF game at the Biucs stadium. Worst experience of my life at a game. We got beat and when we was leaving l had my 2 year old god-son on my shoulders. Well, a group of 3 or 4 students screamed in our face the whole way out of the stadium. Getting in my face and my buddies, and we never said a word to them. Once we got out of the stadium, one of the guys was, um, very persistent lets just say. We started going after him and chased him down and probably would've gave him the ads whipping he deserved if not for 2 and 6 year old boys watching us. I've never been so outraged in my life, tbh. Now, I know how visiting fans feel in Morgantown.....
But, Tampa Bay is beautiful, besides that.
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I seen that about Dalton. Only reason I ever had any interest in the Bills is because Tyrod Taylor is my FF QB. And, I was pissed when the benched him for one game. I was going good in that league til that moment.
I'm really interested in how the Skins handle Cousins. They can franchise him again at 34.6 mil, that's more than like 10mil then the highest paid QB. I can't see them doing it honestly. But, how do we let him walk? He threw for over 4,000 yards and 20 TD's. All while not having, imho, a WR worth a lick, Jordan Reese (TE) injured, and a plethora of other injuries. So, he put up great numbers with below average NFL talent. We just have to give the man a contract and be done with it. Its not worth resetting our franchise again over. But, Cousins holds all the cards, yet hasn't won a playoff game. And, that what the organization keeps saying when any word of contract comes up. Its a team sport and I don't care how good one player is, he won't by himself, get you to the playoffs or, he'll, 8 wins for that matter. Pay the man and build around. He's as good as any other young QB in the league at the moment.
Good NFL QBs are in short supply, and the college game is not the best preparation for NFL QBs. So, yes, Washington needs to lock down Cousins. His numbers are more than respectable for an also-ran team.
MSJ, I heard some sports talk speculating that the NFC is a deeper conference than the AFC and that the NFC non-playoffs teams are much closer to competing than those in the AFC. Your thoughts?
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Good NFL QBs are in short supply, and the college game is not the best preparation for NFL QBs. So, yes, Washington needs to lock down Cousins. His numbers are more than respectable for an also-ran team.
MSJ, I heard some sports talk speculating that the NFC is a deeper conference than the AFC and that the NFC non-playoffs teams are much closer to competing than those in the AFC. Your thoughts?
Agreed on Cousins.
No, not really. If any sport can claim parity its the NFL. I really think, excluding the Browns and a few other teams who are just atrocious, that its the small things that separate a 10-12 win season from a 7-9 win season. Injuries, turnovers, coaching decisions and, really, just plain luck.
Thats why wether you hate em or love em, you have to respect the Patriots. They've built a dynasty. And, they've done it by having a culture. And, it all really boils down to Belichek and Brady. Peanut Butter and Jelly. Two guys that lucked out and got together and both have that one play, one game at a time attitude. And, I think it just trickles down the whole roster. They get almost anyone to buy in. And if the don't? You're gone. Bye. See ya later.
So, I think it all boils down to the small things in football. Taking it one play at a time, and winning that play. My old high school coach use to say, "If we get 3 yards a play, we'll be unstoppable!". And, think about it, he's right.
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Tao, when I was 26 or so before we had kids we went with my buddy to Orlando for vacation with his family. We got tickets to a WVU vs USF game at the Biucs stadium. Worst experience of my life at a game. We got beat and when we was leaving l had my 2 year old god-son on my shoulders. Well, a group of 3 or 4 students screamed in our face the whole way out of the stadium. Getting in my face and my buddies, and we never said a word to them. Once we got out of the stadium, one of the guys was, um, very persistent lets just say. We started going after him and chased him down and probably would've gave him the ads whipping he deserved if not for 2 and 6 year old boys watching us. I've never been so outraged in my life, tbh. Now, I know how visiting fans feel in Morgantown.....
But, Tampa Bay is beautiful, besides that.
ugh, sorry about that - certainly didn't mean all of us Bucs/Tampa fans are the modicum of behavioral perfection. Glad you saw a game in our stadium, but sorry you encountered a band of losers, they come from all walks of life and from anywhere. To be clear, I in no way addressed the Saints fans directly nor harnessed any Saints on the way out, just uber jubilant with my son celebrating the victory - which I would not have done if not for the in-your-face action we received when it was clear we were going to lose - BUT DIDN'T!!! Woo-hoo!.
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Good NFL QBs are in short supply, and the college game is not the best preparation for NFL QBs. So, yes, Washington needs to lock down Cousins. His numbers are more than respectable for an also-ran team.
MSJ, I heard some sports talk speculating that the NFC is a deeper conference than the AFC and that the NFC non-playoffs teams are much closer to competing than those in the AFC. Your thoughts?
Question wasn't addressed to me, but I'll chime in. Agree with first assessment, disagree with the 2nd. While it does appear the NFC has more mojo than AFC, it's not by much and I agree with MSJ, there's parity so hard to say which is stronger than which any more. I think you can make those determinations with divisions, though.
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ugh, sorry about that - certainly didn't mean all of us Bucs/Tampa fans are the modicum of behavioral perfection. Glad you saw a game in our stadium, but sorry you encountered a band of losers, they come from all walks of life and from anywhere. To be clear, I in no way addressed the Saints fans directly nor harnessed any Saints on the way out, just uber jubilant with my son celebrating the victory - which I would not have done if not for the in-your-face action we received when it was clear we were going to lose - BUT DIDN'T!!! Woo-hoo!.
Lol. No worries. It just popped in my head when reading your posts. College football Karma, you might say. I remember when I was on 16 or 17 and out in Morgantown and we were playing Syracuse. There is a road leading to stadium with a bunch of college apartment complexes. We was on balcony and a pack of Cuse fans came walking through and the guys on the balcony next to us had a crate of oranges and was pelting the fans with them.. So, even though I didn't partake in that I probably had the karma coming back to me. Lol. I felt awful for those fans.....
We used to go to most of the bowl games and several away games before we had kids. You know your gonna get hackles, Tampa was just the worst. And, it probably wouldn't had bothered me so much if we didn't have kids with us, that's what pissed me off.
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ugh, sorry about that - certainly didn't mean all of us Bucs/Tampa fans are the modicum of behavioral perfection. Glad you saw a game in our stadium, but sorry you encountered a band of losers, they come from all walks of life and from anywhere. To be clear, I in no way addressed the Saints fans directly nor harnessed any Saints on the way out, just uber jubilant with my son celebrating the victory - which I would not have done if not for the in-your-face action we received when it was clear we were going to lose - BUT DIDN'T!!! Woo-hoo!.
Lol. No worries. It just popped in my head when reading your posts. College football Karma, you might say. I remember when I was on 16 or 17 and out in Morgantown and we were playing Syracuse. There is a road leading to stadium with a bunch of college apartment complexes. We was on balcony and a pack of Cuse fans came walking through and the guys on the balcony next to us had a crate of oranges and was pelting the fans with them.. So, even though I didn't partake in that I probably had the karma coming back to me. Lol. I felt awful for those fans.....
We used to go to most of the bowl games and several away games before we had kids. You know your gonna get hackles, Tampa was just the worst. And, it probably wouldn't had bothered me so much if we didn't have kids with us, that's what pissed me off.
Yeah, the kids factor definitely ups the ante. This discussion reminds me of when Philly fans threw batteries and vomit at my Rays when we were playing them in Philly during the World Series - and they swept us to boot.
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Good NFL QBs are in short supply, and the college game is not the best preparation for NFL QBs. So, yes, Washington needs to lock down Cousins. His numbers are more than respectable for an also-ran team.
MSJ, I heard some sports talk speculating that the NFC is a deeper conference than the AFC and that the NFC non-playoffs teams are much closer to competing than those in the AFC. Your thoughts?
Question wasn't addressed to me, but I'll chime in. Agree with first assessment, disagree with the 2nd. While it does appear the NFC has more mojo than AFC, it's not by much and I agree with MSJ, there's parity so hard to say which is stronger than which any more. I think you can make those determinations with divisions, though.
Thanks for chiming in, Tao. I didn't mean to be exclusive.
With the high level of parity in the NFL, I would agree that any difference between the conferences would be slight. What is striking in the league is how close the also-ran teams are to making leaps forward. How do the LA Rams go from dogmeat to prime rib in one season? New coach, some key acquisitions, better QB play....boom! The St. Louis Rams pulled off the trick in the late 90s, then got lucky when the backup turns out to be the future Hall of Fame QB, Kurt Warner. The opportunity to improve rapidly makes the NFL the most enjoyable league to follow.
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Apparently there is a major story on ESPN.com concerning internal conflict among Belichek, Brady and Kraft. It involves Kraft ordering the trade of Garofalo. Cracks in the dynasty?
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Seen that BFK. I think its an overblown story to be honest. And reports about the story seem to suggest the same.
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Seen that BFK. I think its an overblown story to be honest. And reports about the story seem to suggest the same.
I haven't read the story, but if Kraft did order Belichek to trade Garofalo, perhaps that explains why the return from the 49ers was so meagre. One second-round pick?
How 'bout your picks for the weekend? I've got Falcons, Saints, Chiefs, Jaguars.
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I haven't read the story, but if Kraft did order Belichek to trade Garofalo, perhaps that explains why the return from the 49ers was so meagre. One second-round pick?
How 'bout your picks for the weekend? I've got Falcons, Saints, Chiefs, Jaguars.
Oh, I fully believe that Kraft ordered the trade. I believe there might be some feathers ruffled. The article had a lot more than that packed in there though. A whole lot more. Trading Jimmy G is not a Belichek move. Why would he for a 2nd rounder, when during the draft he could've gotten a ton more? Other articles I read just said a lot of it is being over blown.
Chiefs, Jags (I can't believe I'm saying that), Saints and Rams.
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KC, ATL, JAX, CAR
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KC, ATL, JAX, CAR
Both NFL wild card teams, eh, Tao?
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KC, ATL, JAX, CAR
Both NFL wild card teams, eh, Tao?
Yes, growing up a Bucs fan, I've learned to accept the vulgarity of unfairness in sports ...
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What I'd like to see: KC, BUF, CAR, ATL
What I think will happen: KC, JAX, NO, LAR
Yes, Skins need to lock down Cousins. Look at the money Stafford is making, people think it's insane but that's really what solid quarterback play is worth. I think Cousins is in that bracket.
As far as conference comparisons, the league has a lot of parity for sure, I remember Chip Kelley rattling off the percentage of games that come down to one score and the final play but a part of me does feel like the NFC is deeper than the AFC and has been for some time. Just look at the Wild Card races and who made it out in both conferences. Do you think the Bills and Titans are on par with the Falcons and Panthers? Every year it feels like a couple of teams who have no business being there make it to the AFC playoffs but in the NFC playoffs you generally don't know how things will shake out. Right now it seems like either the Rams or Vikings will represent in the Superbowl but it wouldn't surprise me if the other four teams made a run either. In the AFC, it would be legitimately jaw-droppingly shocking if the Steelers or Patriots didn't win the Conference.
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Right now it seems like either the Rams or Vikings will represent in the Superbowl.
I'm going with the Saints. I love Karmara, and think he'll be the X-factor. Their defense is stout and a veteran QB. I love the way they look. And, I think Payton is a top-5 coach.
I'm taking the Steelers in the AFC, if and only if Antonio Brown is available. Haven't heard any news on that. If not, I'm afraid the Patriots will be back.
Saints are my SB champs.
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Saints are my SB champs.
Would be nice to know we/Bucs beat the Super Bowl champs last week of the season - nice for our confidence.
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Right now it seems like either the Rams or Vikings will represent in the Superbowl.
I'm going with the Saints. I love Karmara, and think he'll be the X-factor. Their defense is stout and a veteran QB. I love the way they look. And, I think Payton is a top-5 coach.
I'm taking the Steelers in the AFC, if and only if Antonio Brown is available. Haven't heard any news on that. If not, I'm afraid the Patriots will be back.
Saints are my SB champs.
You're right, that's a hard argument to beat when you add up all those factors. I've probably bought too much into the Rams hype, with such a young head coach and quarterback, I think they're bound to make mistakes in the postseason against the best teams. But I'm still in with the Vikings. They had a series of goal line stops to win their last game of the season and in that moment there, they convinced me that they're going to the Super Bowl. Granted, it was against the Bears but seeing their defense put on that kind of performance to end a game they didn't have to win made a big impression.
I just read an article about the Bellichick friction with Kraft and Brady and supposedly someone close to Bill says he's strongly considering going back to the Giants, that he really wants it and this might be his last chance to do it. It's such a long shot but it would be so utterly insane if he became the Giants HC. It would be bigger than LeBron coming back to Cleveland.
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Right now it seems like either the Rams or Vikings will represent in the Superbowl.
I'm going with the Saints. I love Karmara, and think he'll be the X-factor. Their defense is stout and a veteran QB. I love the way they look. And, I think Payton is a top-5 coach.
I'm taking the Steelers in the AFC, if and only if Antonio Brown is available. Haven't heard any news on that. If not, I'm afraid the Patriots will be back.
Saints are my SB champs.
You're right, that's a hard argument to beat when you add up all those factors. I've probably bought too much into the Rams hype, with such a young head coach and quarterback, I think they're bound to make mistakes in the postseason against the best teams. But I'm still in with the Vikings. They had a series of goal line stops to win their last game of the season and in that moment there, they convinced me that they're going to the Super Bowl. Granted, it was against the Bears but seeing their defense put on that kind of performance to end a game they didn't have to win made a big impression.
I just read an article about the Bellichick friction with Kraft and Brady and supposedly someone close to Bill says he's strongly considering going back to the Giants, that he really wants it and this might be his last chance to do it. It's such a long shot but it would be so utterly insane if he became the Giants HC. It would be bigger than LeBron coming back to Cleveland.
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That would be THE sports story of the year/decade if that happened, would love it - that would really put to rest how much of his success is Brady. I for one think he's proven to be the greatest head coach of all time, but I do have that itch in the back of my brain that wonders, "what if ... ".
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Holy shit that Mariota block to pick up the first down and win the game.
I'm already wrong on my predictions!
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Holy shit that Mariota block to pick up the first down and win the game.
I'm already wrong on my predictions!
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As am I 8)
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Holy shit that Mariota block to pick up the first down and win the game.
I'm already wrong on my predictions!
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As am I 8)
Likewise. But I got the Falcons right. Hotlanta!
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NFL Playoff Predictions, Day One:
BFK: 1-1
Tao: 1-1
MSJ: 0-2
Bolivar: 0-2
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Hey, there is a reason i don't gamble. I'm predicting the Saints to win it all. Looking good so far. But, you know, there's a reason I don't gamble, lol.
NFL is a very hard sport to bet on, when you include the line of the game. Those guys in Las Vegas are pretty dann good at their job.
How about the Browns having a parade for going 0-16? I thought it was brilliant.
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NFL Playoff Predictions, Wild Card Weekend:
BFK: 3-1
Tao: 2-2
MSJ: 2-2
Bolivar: 2-2
BFK's "Hotlanta" pick gives him the slim edge, but the field is tight. A Carolina comeback would have flipped BFK and Tao (and buried MSJ and Bolivar).
On to Divisional Weekend! Get your picks in!
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What a game. Definitely the best one of the weekend. Gotta give it to Carolina playing with so much heart, with Cam getting beat up all night and taking his own face shield to the eye.
Kept me in the running though!
PHL, NE, MIN, PIT
How about the Browns having a parade for going 0-16? I thought it was brilliant.
I can't imagine the sheer level of nihilism it takes to have a 0-16 parade. Love it!
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Need someone to list the schedule....
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Yeah, a schedule would help....
NFL Playoffs, Divisional Round:
1. Falcons at Eagles
2. Titans at Patriots
3. Jaguars at Steelers
4. Saints at Vikings
Leader in the clubhouse goes first.
I've got:
"Hotlanta" Falcons
The Dreaded Patriots
Steelers
....and the Saints!
Laissez les bon temps rouler! Let the good times roll!
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What a game. Definitely the best one of the weekend. Gotta give it to Carolina playing with so much heart, with Cam getting beat up all night and taking his own face shield to the eye.
Kept me in the running though!
PHL, NE, MIN, PIT
How about the Browns having a parade for going 0-16? I thought it was brilliant.
I can't imagine the sheer level of nihilism it takes to have a 0-16 parade. Love it!
Didn't see your picks when I posted the schedule, Bolivar. We differ on Saints vs. Vikings and Falcons vs. Eagles. The NFC games will tell the tale for us.
Cleveland's "factory of sadness" sure is productive, isn't it?
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I miss the Dog Pound! Da Dawgs! I met Bernie Kosar once in a Browns Bar somewhere in Florida ( forget the city, think it was Miami ), nice guy.
Tao Horror's Picks:
- Eagles
- Patriots
- Steelers
- Saints
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What a game. Definitely the best one of the weekend. Gotta give it to Carolina playing with so much heart, with Cam getting beat up all night and taking his own face shield to the eye.
Kept me in the running though!
PHL, NE, MIN, PIT
How about the Browns having a parade for going 0-16? I thought it was brilliant.
I can't imagine the sheer level of nihilism it takes to have a 0-16 parade. Love it!
Didn't see your picks when I posted the schedule, Bolivar. We differ on Saints vs. Vikings and Falcons vs. Eagles. The NFC games will tell the tale for us.
Cleveland's "factory of sadness" sure is productive, isn't it?
I'm rolling with Vikings to win out as my SB champions this year.
The Eagles pick is kinda my long shot to help get me ahead in the standings. They're still a well built team though and only reason the Eagles aren't favored is because the media is pretty down on Nick Foles. If he plays like he did against the Rams and Giants, I think they can be just about as lethal as they looked leading up to the Wentz injury. But that Falcons secondary is looking really nasty, they absolutely brutalized the Rams this weekend.
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I'm using my one-game lead to take a flyer on the Saints to upset the Vikings.
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Falcons, Patriots, Steelers and Who Dat?.???? The Saints my pick to win it all.
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I'm using my one-game lead to take a flyer on the Saints to upset the Vikings
Saints are 6.5 point favorites.....
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I'm using my one-game lead to take a flyer on the Saints to upset the Vikings
Saints are 6.5 point favorites.....
That's really surprising. No respect for the Vikings.
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I'm using my one-game lead to take a flyer on the Saints to upset the Vikings
Saints are 6.5 point favorites.....
That's really surprising. No respect for the Vikings.
If the Saints only run for thirty whatever yards again though, I don't think they win that game...
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I'm using my one-game lead to take a flyer on the Saints to upset the Vikings
Saints are 6.5 point favorites.....
That's really surprising. No respect for the Vikings.
If the Saints only run for thirty whatever yards again though, I don't think they win that game...
Yeah, the Vikings D is pretty snazzy, so another game I wouldn't bet on ::)
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Yeah, the Vikings D is pretty snazzy, so another game I wouldn't bet on ::)
On paper, the edge definitely goes to the Vikings, but you don't play football games on paper.
Hard to be too keen on the Vikings in the playoffs given the "unproven" status of the QB. In this, I'd give a definite edge to Brees. It will very much depend on who really shows up.
If the Saints can manage to run the ball, they'll win. If they can't, I don't think they'll be able to pull it out, even if Brees plays well.
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I'd the Saints get pass the Vikings its over...their winning it all. And, really you're proving my point. They are the most versatile team in the NFL. The run for less than 40 yards and still put up over 30 points. Not many teams can do that. And, truth be told when their run game gets clogged by these top D's (Carolina, Vikings), they just use screens and short throws to supplant the run game. I'm sorry, they just have a ton of weapons...a Bakker's dozen you might say, lol. Puns. Vikings are not stopping them and nobody else in the NFC. I got em as SB champs, but Pats and a Steelers with a healthy Brown, will give them a run for their money.
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If the NFC championship game features "Hotlanta" vs. "Who Dat", wow! Could be epic. I wonder whether I'll stay with the Falcons in that event.
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If the NFC championship game features "Hotlanta" vs. "Who Dat", wow! Could be epic. I wonder whether I'll stay with the Falcons in that event.
Its my pick. Nick Foles isn't beating Matty ICE. I just think Saints are the most complete team, offense and defense. With A QB that set a NFL record 70.3 completion%. They have all the pieces you look for in a SB champ these days. I mean, I'm not betting the house on it. And, I have no vested interest. Its what I see.
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I'd the Saints get pass the Vikings its over...their winning it all. And, really you're proving my point. They are the most versatile team in the NFL. The run for less than 40 yards and still put up over 30 points. Not many teams can do that. And, truth be told when their run game gets clogged by these top D's (Carolina, Vikings), they just use screens and short throws to supplant the run game. I'm sorry, they just have a ton of weapons...a Bakker's dozen you might say, lol. Puns. Vikings are not stopping them and nobody else in the NFC. I got em as SB champs, but Pats and a Steelers with a healthy Brown, will give them a run for their money.
I mean, I sure wouldn't mind, I do live in Louisiana now, haha.
I just doing know enough of the Viking's defense to know all that well how it would play out. That being said, I don't think the Viking's offense is particularly scary, so perhaps you end up with nearly the same result as the Carolina game...
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Bill Simmons Book of Betting 101.
Take the better QB, rule #1.
Vikings- Case Keenum. Came out of nowhere after a injury and his first career playoff start.
N.O.- Drew Brees. SB champ, definite lock for HoF. Had a historic season, setting league record in completion %.
Besides those two, they have similar D's, but the Saints are loaded with offensive weapons, Vikings...not so much. Keenum has played above what you would expect from him. Playoffs might be too big a stage for him...we'll see.
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Bill Simmons Book of Betting 101.
Take the better QB, rule #1.
Vikings- Case Keenum. Came out of nowhere after a injury and his first career playoff start.
N.O.- Drew Brees. SB champ, definite lock for HoF. Had a historic season, setting league record in completion %.
Besides those two, they have similar D's, but the Saints are loaded with offensive weapons, Vikings...not so much. Keenum has played above what you would expect from him. Playoffs might be too big a stage for him...we'll see.
Yeah, going with experience is probably the "best bet" but I think they teams are somewhat "even matches" so I definitely would not be surprised to see the game go either way. It's going to come down to who steps up and makes the big plays.
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Offense scores points. Defense wins championships.
When you look at the offensive weapons on the Vikings, I admit, a lot of them are inexperienced. Saints not only have quanitifiably one of the best QBs to ever do it but their weapons also have great hands and unreal sense of timing with Brees. But the coaching I'd say is pretty even. Not too long ago Zimmer basically beat the Beast Mode era Seahawks in the playoffs, they whiffed it on a missed field goal. I don't think their success is because an overlooked player had an unexpected year. They've had success with Bridgewater, Bradford, and now Keenum, that speaks to the strength of the system.
H who are your picks?
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H who are your picks?
Best guess is Patriots over the Titans, Steelers over the Jaguars, not because either of those favorites are that good, but the underdogs seem that bad. It wouldn't surprise me to see the Steelers fuck up and lose though, because they do tend to break out a terrible game every once in a while.
I think the Saints do have a slight edge on the Vikings and I'd take the Falcons, who seem to be playing decently lately, over Nick Foles' Eagles. Again though, I wouldn't be shocked if either of those go the other way though...
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Hey, TSA Forum, just a quick canvass: Any interest in a competition in picking NFL winners week-by-week next season? I've always enjoyed it. We could go straight-up winners or against the point spread. I'd be willing to organize the thing. Strictly for fun and bragging rights, though....not really into putting real money on the line.
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Hey, TSA Forum, just a quick canvass: Any interest in a competition in picking NFL winners week-by-week next season? I've always enjoyed it. We could go straight-up winners or against the point spread. I'd be willing to organize the thing. Strictly for fun and bragging rights, though....not really into putting real money on the line.
+1
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Hey, TSA Forum, just a quick canvass: Any interest in a competition in picking NFL winners week-by-week next season? I've always enjoyed it. We could go straight-up winners or against the point spread. I'd be willing to organize the thing. Strictly for fun and bragging rights, though....not really into putting real money on the line.
+1
Sure, zero cost, little effort to maintain; sounds good to me.
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Hey, TSA Forum, just a quick canvass: Any interest in a competition in picking NFL winners week-by-week next season? I've always enjoyed it. We could go straight-up winners or against the point spread. I'd be willing to organize the thing. Strictly for fun and bragging rights, though....not really into putting real money on the line.
+1
Sure, zero cost, little effort to maintain; sounds good to me.
H reads me like a book....
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SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!!!
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SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!!!
Lol. No, this is ol' "Small-time, cheap-ass BFK" talkin' atcha!
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Lol. I just like saying it. In only in one "money league" for FF. Its only 25 let person, winner takes all. Then I play those spot cards, maybe throw $5 on 1 or 2. Not a big gambler. And, I wouldn't expect us to put money on a TSA pick em league.....but I'm in.
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That's great, MSJ! What do you think, spread or straight-up?
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I'm definitely in, the ongoing conversation in this thread really made me wish we were doing it all year.
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Same here, Bolivar! Spread or straight-up?
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Crowdsourced TSA betting advice lol.
If you guys start making money and beating vegas spreads, getting rich etc., I hope you remember us poor folks here running the forum. We could use a donation for better server space, bandwidth, and an IT guy to make it not so buggy. After you secure your own affairs, obviously, but just in case you're so wealthy you don't know what to do with it all ... ;).
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Same here, Bolivar! Spread or straight-up?
I think I'd rather just straight-up, but mostly due to laziness.
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Crowdsourced TSA betting advice lol.
If you guys start making money and beating vegas spreads, getting rich etc., I hope you remember us poor folks here running the forum. We could use a donation for better server space, bandwidth, and an IT guy to make it not so buggy. After you secure your own affairs, obviously, but just in case you're so wealthy you don't know what to do with it all ... ;).
Lol! Hey, Wilshire, that wasn't betting advice, that was advice on charitable distribution! OK....putting down "TSA Forum" as a beneficiary of possible LEGAL gambling winnings.
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....putting down "TSA Forum" as a beneficiary of possible LEGAL gambling winnings.
Wording mis-arranged. Change to possible beneficiary ... in other words, if we FEEL like being generous.
Spread or straight up doesn't matter to me for the fun of the game, but would be fun to see how good I am against the spread.
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I'm sticking with my Saints over Vikings pick, but I'm starting to think it was a bad call. Vikings defense has the best 3rd down defense since 1973 at 25%.
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I'm sticking with my Saints over Vikings pick, but I'm starting to think it was a bad call. Vikings defense has the best 3rd down defense since 1973 at 25%.
Yeah, I think it's going to be a close game in any case. Probably less than 7 points either way...
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I love that it's the last game of the weekend, hopefully it's an epic matchup.
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Case Keenum vs Drew Brees, Keenums 1st career playoff start. D's are pretty much equal, ill give a slight edge to Vikings. Offensively without a doubt goes to the Saints. This is the playoffs, not a regular season games. Experience matters. Im taking Saints all day everyday and not thinking twice.
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Just a quick reminder of what comes before https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY8exXZgyqc
Patriots represent / tomorrow gonna be sexy
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Frail as long as you are a New Englander then you're not a front running fraud. I hope that's not the case....
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Frail as long as you are a New Englander then you're not a front running fraud. I hope that's not the case....
FRAIL FRAUD! Kinda catchy ... don't answer him, Frail - he's just trying to find out where you live - I fell for that and I can't shake the guy ;)
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Lol
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Nah lived there for 2 years though being a lions/packers fan, and hated the Pats. Then after watching them win again and again, and every fucking year they are 14-2, 15-1 etc I grew to appreciate their professionalism and franchise. And now Tom Brady and Bella have 5 titles
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And so the Second Apocalypse Forums NFL Picks run for the Beard Fisher King and "Hotlanta" ended in salt and butchery.
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And so the Second Apocalypse Forums NFL Picks run for the Beard Fisher King and "Hotlanta" ended in salt and butchery.
Lmao! "Hotlanta" froze their asses up in Philly! 4th and two for the win....nope! System Resumption, and now the Falcons are burning in out-of-the-playoffs hell.
F*** this f***ing sh**! Maybe the Saints will help me out tomorrow.....
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TH is 2-0 for this weekend!
MSJ, I'm laughing at the superior intellect ( I didn't pick the team with the best QB )
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Its not superior intellect, rather odds are the better QB wins most of the time in the playoffs. It worked for your Patriots pick, and we'll see today how the odds really play out. Brees over Keenum, Roethlesburger over Bortles....
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Its not superior intellect,
I know, I'm fucking with you! ;D
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What an upset! Lots of little miracles pulled off by Pittsburgh but not enough to win the game. Crazy score. Did anyone pick Jacksonville for that game?
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What an upset! Lots of little miracles pulled off by Pittsburgh but not enough to win the game. Crazy score. Did anyone pick Jacksonville for that game?
Great game. And, to defend myself the better QB usually winning is accurate over the leagues history. Also, its not a theory of mine, but Bill Simmons. But, I agree with it. This year either seems to be an anomaly or the passing of the old guard to the new.
Vikings are dominantimg. Look very good on D. Bolivar, there is merit to D's win championships, but that has been shaky over last decade. But, it seems t to be the case this year. Honestly, I think the Pats raise banner #6. And, a week ago the dynasty was falling apart.
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I was rooting for Jax given I'm a Floridian, but I think I picked Steelers - think I'm 0-2 for today ( after bragging I was 2-0 yesterday, doh! ). I should've known better with that Vikings game ( in person, I watched the Bucs beat Saints last game of the season and the Saints did not impress that game - I let the Saints chanting in this thread affect my thinking, will try to avoid that in the future ).
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NFL Playoff Predictions: Divisional Weekend:
For the weekend:
Bolivar: 3-1
Tao: 2-2
BFK: 1-3
MSJ: 1-3
Totals:
Bolivar: 5-3
Tao: 4-4
BFK: 4-4
MSJ: 3-5
Unbelievable weekend of football! Three games are coin flips, and then, of course, you have the Patriots.
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I love that it's the last game of the weekend, hopefully it's an epic matchup.
Well, it certainly was that...
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For posterity. The better QB thinking is Bill Simmons. He is my all-time favorite sports writer. I do tend to agree with him though. This year it can obviously be thrown out the window. Unless, what we're seeing is the old guard getting passed by the new.
Saints vs Vikings, I watched. Great game and wow what an ending. I never knew that Keenum was 2nd in the league for QBR. So, maybe he was the better QB. But, I think that last play was a combination of a good play, good throw and catch and more than a little luck. I don't mind seeing Vikings advance and they'll be who I'm rooting for the rest of the way. The Purple People Eaters!
I missed a great game between Jags and Steelers. Which again, maybe Bortles has developed into a way better QB than Bortles of the past 2-3 years. Tom Coughlin could have a good deal to do with that. I'm rooting for them to take down the Pats with all my heart.
Hey, and there is a reason i don't gamble, take it easy on a fellow. I'm looking at you Tao!
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Hey, and there is a reason i don't gamble, take it easy on a fellow. I'm looking at you Tao!
Great respect for you, sir! And you ( inadvertently? ) introduce a potential omen ... Patriots 2 SB loses were to the Coughlin led Giants, and now he's head of football operations for the Jags ... could be ...
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Great respect for you, sir! And you ( inadvertently? ) introduce a potential omen ... Patriots 2 SB loses were to the Coughlin led Giants, and now he's head of football operations for the Jags ... could be ...
Thank you, utmost respect for you also. Yes, it is an omen, one I'm fond of. Because, well, FUCK THE PATRIOTS!!!!!
I'm throwing all of the Mr. Simmons gambling rules out the window(in all honesty it wouldn't have changed my picks, I thought Saints was the hot team). Now, I'm going with who I want to win. Viking over Eagles and Jags over Patriots. With the Purple Peope Eaters winning the Super Bowl.
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My picks:
Eagles over Vikings
Jags over Pats ( make yourself comfortable ;D )
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I like the Vikings over the Eagles.
I'd love for the Jaguars to beat the Patriots, but I just don't see it happening. Really hope I am wrong though.
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aww thats kinda cute jags going to play pats, hope they make it somewhat challenging
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aww thats kinda cute jags going to play pats, hope they make it somewhat challenging
Wouldn't be the first time NFL outcomes have surprised me. I've accepted ciphrang MSJ to take up residence in my mind, so going with the Jags. I'm good with it, MSJ - enjoy yourself, pulling my strings.
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I'm 3-5 following Simmons rule #1 of playoff betting, don't fucking listen to me!!!!
Anyhow, as I said, in picking who I want to win.
In all honesty, I see fucking pretty-boy, vegan eating, sleeps 12 hours a day, cheating, got a hot ass wife (excuse me ladies), will be up there with confetti with his perfect teeth talking about how just one play at a time man, one game at a time. And, ill feel like cracking those teeth through the TV, will hoist the Lombardi Trophy. And, I would not be the least bit surprised. I'm just rooting for the teams.left is like to see win a SB.
This isn't Ciphrang MSJ, TAO. This is me, I suck at picking winners. I should follow my gut (which I did with the Saints, and they lost on the only last play of the 4th in NFL playoff history.), and my pick would be been slightly different. Nothing major though
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Oh, Frail, remember who is Consultant for the Jags.....Tom Coughlin. He prowels the sidelines and the film rooms. Who have the Pats lost their 2 SB's too? Coughlin led Giants. And lets be honest, Bortles has shown he is capable of making plays and winning games. He isn't the Bortles of the last two years. Hmmm, I wonder who will be the Jags David Tyree.
Last time Pats fans was this cocky was when you was undefeated. Look how that worked out.
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BFK's Picks for NFL Championship Weekend:
Jaguars upset the Patriots
Vikings over the Eagles
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This isn't Ciphrang MSJ, TAO.
Yes, I agree, you're not a Ciphrang - was making a joke, you in my head ( Ciphrangs in Kellhus's severed heads ) ... oh, nevermind.
I'm actually picking the Jag's because I think they'll win.
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Yes, I agree, you're not a Ciphrang - was making a joke, you in my head ( Ciphrangs in Kellhus's severed heads ) ... oh, nevermind.
I understood you the first time. I was just reiterating that I am not an evil demon making picks for you. Lol
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Yes, I agree, you're not a Ciphrang - was making a joke, you in my head ( Ciphrangs in Kellhus's severed heads ) ... oh, nevermind.
I understood you the first time. I was just reiterating that I am not an evil demon making picks for you. Lol
And an evil demon making picks for me would show his hand? ;D
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And an evil demon making picks for me would show his hand? ;D
I never told you to follow my lead concerning who to pick. Maybe, you just wanna follow an evil demon.
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And an evil demon making picks for me would show his hand? ;D
I never told you to follow my lead concerning who to pick. Maybe, you just wanna follow an evil demon.
er, uh, can't think of anything clever ... you got me, point made :D
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Maybe, you just wanna follow an evil demon.
Who doesn't?
But really, it's hard to imagine the Jaguars beating the Patriots, but I don't think it's impossible. It just requires numerous improbable things to happen.
I just don't think the Jaguars offense plays better than the Patriot's defense to account for the Patriot's offense being better than the Jaguar's defense.
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Unless Tommy "playboy" Brady's right (throwing) hand is really banged up. Their being tight lipped about it.
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Unless Tommy "playboy" Brady's right (throwing) hand is really banged up. Their being tight lipped about it.
I doubt if he is really hurt. They list him on the injury report all the time, he's never really injured though.
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I agree, H. Thats what Belicheck does. Manipulate the Injury list. To keep em guessing. Though, if he is, that Jimmy G trade looks a lot worse then it already did.
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I agree, H. Thats what Belicheck does. Manipulate the Injury list. To keep em guessing. Though, if he is, that Jimmy G trade looks a lot worse then it already did.
I think if he really was, you actually would not have seen it on the report. I think they are hoping to get the Jag's defense to take some shots at him, thinking they can hurt him out of the game and taking stupid penalties.
In any case, that trade was bad, injury or not. They basically gave him away for next to nothing, for no reason.
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I'm going with Patriots and Vikings. I'd love to see the Jags win but I'm trying to stay ahead here!
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The Jaguars are winning tomorrow
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https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2018/1/5/16853506/nfl-playoffs-gambling-manifesto-five-picks
Simmons Playoff Gambling Manifesto 5.0
This is where I got always go with the better QB. But, that was way back in version 1.0. Its a good read, for gambling reasons and the comical side to it.
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Same old outcome in the Patriots game. They should have lost that game probably three times over, but again, the other team just lays an egg in the 4th.
I was surprised by the Eagles, looks like the Vikings just did not have it yesterday...
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I was surprised by the Eagles, looks like the Vikings just did not have it yesterday...
Playoff Gambling Manifesto 5.0
RULE NO. 12: Beware of any team that celebrated the previous weekend’s victory like it had just won the Super Bowl.
I loved Buffalo breaking its playoff drought; I loved Andy Dalton finally making someone else’s playoff dreams come true; I loved Baltimore getting screwed over by strength of schedule because Cleveland (the city the team ditched) won zero games; I loved Kyle Williams’s kids; I loved all the awesome locker-room celebration videos; and I even loved celebrity Bills fans that I’ve never heard of (like the CBS anchor who went on Inside the NFL) taking their media victory laps.
Does 48 hours of congratulatory texts/emails/calls, interviews and celebrations bode well for an upcoming playoff game? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Not at all!
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NFL Playoff Predictions, Championship Weekend:
Bolivar: 1-1
Tao: 1-1
BFK: 0-2
MSJ: 0-2
Totals:
Bolivar: 6-4
Tao: 5-5
BFK: 4-6
MSJ: 3-7
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NFL Playoff Predictions, Championship Weekend:
Bolivar: 1-1
Tao: 1-1
BFK: 0-2
MSJ: 0-2
Totals:
Bolivar: 6-4
Tao: 5-5
BFK: 4-6
MSJ: 3-7
In our defense, the Jags raised hell, performed much better than anticipated by the "experts" and I think covered the spread if I'm not mistaken.
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In our defense, the Jags raised hell, performed much better than anticipated by the "experts" and I think covered the spread if I'm not mistaken.
The Jags did cover, and they might have won if they had kept the pedal down. But they stopped throwing on first down, which was how they built the lead. "It's working, so don't change it!"
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My first post in this thread ended with how I'd love to see Jags and Vikings in Superbowl LII. Almost had it, too, with how far these teams came in the postseason. Instead, I'm getting what is likely the very last matchup I would ever want to see. I really can't root for either of these teams. I suppose Philadelphia winning would bother me less. At the same time, if they lose, the Coughlin/Manning Giants will remain the only team to best Brady/Belichick in the Super Bowl. This just really sucks.
Howie Roseman definitely deserves football executive of the year.
Going to need a few days to mull this one over. Hard to pick against the Pats, especially when they proved they can still bounce back even when it looks like a team has their number. I think Philly has that same resilience, though. There was a couple times this season where it looked like they completely lost momentum but were able to hang in there long enough to get it back. There was a Monday night Skins-Eagles game this October MSJ might remember where this really stood out to me. They lost their starting left tackle that game as well and still found a way to win. My head is telling me New England ties Pittsburgh with six world championships but I ha e a feeling Philly might have the right ingredients to beat them.
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I really can't root for either of these teams.
I'm with you there, hard for me to root for Philly given their fan's atrocious treatment of the Rays when they met in the World Series some years back.
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I'm hugely ignorant but i quite like Philly fans in that i know nothing about them apart from how terrible they are, and that amuses me.
I saw some old 99 vikings fan give a message then the philly fans creating banners and chants against her, it's so ridiculous it's sublime.
I'm away to google more of their antics and then find out how wrong it is to find them funny.
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I can't say I like the Eagles, but I don't hate them like I do the Patriots.
If the Eagles play all 4 quarters, they can win. I'm really tired of teams trying to win only playing 3. Play the whole game.
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I can't say I like the Eagles, but I don't hate them like I do the Patriots.
If the Eagles play all 4 quarters, they can win. I'm really tired of teams trying to win only playing 3. Play the whole game.
Mother's milk, H - how professional sports teams can't seem to get this is beyond me.
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Mother's milk, H - how professional sports teams can't seem to get this is beyond me.
They come out the gate strong, like one should, but the Patriots are adept at minimizing damage and keeping the game close. Then when time is running low, they have the confidence to play well from behind. The only other option is to bury the game by so much there simply isn't any time to lose the lead, but that just isn't really going to happen.
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Ok, I think Sam Darnold will be a huge bust, Josh Rosen has a chance to be a decent NFL QB, if he can adjust his attitude. But, if I am a NFL GM in need of a QB, I'm taking Baker Mayfield.
Here me out. If you see the QB's that are successful, its because the system fits their strengths. i dont know understand why they force a spread QB to be a 7-step drop QB. Eagles just won the SB by basically running RPO (Run-Pass option) plays 75% of the game out of spread sets. The NFL is changing and QB's like Mayfield are prime to take over the NFL. He has arm strength, accuracy, and seems to be a great leader. His antics don't bother me, he'll grow out of that. He's NOT Manziel. I'm telling you, Mayfield will have best career out of those QB's. Wyoming's Josh Allen is the wild card.