The Second Apocalypse

Earwa => General Earwa => Topic started by: locke on May 07, 2013, 04:58:59 pm

Title: Prince(s) of Nothing
Post by: locke on May 07, 2013, 04:58:59 pm: The What has come Before (that comes before) at the start of TTT sparked an idea. It emphasizes the "nothing" that the Mandate finds.

This made me think that Achamian is something of a Prince of Nothing, himself.

As is Cnaiur, when his Utemot/People/Ground/Identity are destroyed by the machinations of the Dunyain, he is no longer of the People, he stands apart and mimics being of the People, even though he is chieftan of the Utemot, he is not of the Utemot, he is more or less a Prince of Nothing.

And of course the literal text that tells us Kellhus is a Prince of Nothing.
Title: Re: Prince(s) of Nothing
Post by: Wilshire on May 07, 2013, 05:13:25 pm: Also, in the Inverse Fire, Aurang is described as the Prince of the Inchoroi, which to me is another Prince of Nothing.
Title: Re: Prince(s) of Nothing
Post by: mrganondorf on February 19, 2014, 12:58:26 am: And kind of Saubon, before he gets Caraskand? Would Old Moe count as a prince of nothing? What about Seswatha as schoolmaster without a school?
Title: Re: Prince(s) of Nothing
Post by: Cynical Cat on August 11, 2016, 07:14:45 am: All valid points. I hadn't considered that particular aspect of the books until now, but yes princes of nothing abound. There numbers only grow in the Aspect Emperor when we add Mimara, Cleric, Sorweel, and Fanayal. One could also argue several other characters might qualify as well.
Title: Re: Prince(s) of Nothing
Post by: The Sharmat on August 16, 2016, 10:29:36 pm: Quote from: Wilshire on May 07, 2013, 05:13:25 pm
Also, in the Inverse Fire, Aurang is described as the Prince of the Inchoroi, which to me is another Prince of Nothing.
Inchoroi means "People of Emptiness" in Nonman speak right?
Title: Re: Prince(s) of Nothing
Post by: Cynical Cat on August 17, 2016, 10:33:04 am: Quote from: The Sharmat on August 16, 2016, 10:29:36 pm
Quote from: Wilshire on May 07, 2013, 05:13:25 pm
Also, in the Inverse Fire, Aurang is described as the Prince of the Inchoroi, which to me is another Prince of Nothing.
Inchoroi means "People of Emptiness" in Nonman speak right?

Yes.
Title: Re: Prince(s) of Nothing
Post by: Madness on August 17, 2016, 02:08:28 pm: Princes of Emptiness. Glad to see you swinging by, Sharmat.
Title: Re: Prince(s) of Nothing
Post by: The Sharmat on August 18, 2016, 01:21:10 am: Quote from: Madness on August 17, 2016, 02:08:28 pm
Princes of Emptiness. Glad to see you swinging by, Sharmat.
And I'm pleasantly surprised to see you participating in discussion again. Thought you took a vow of silence since you'd already read Unholy Consult.

Incidentally how do I get a custom title? I assumed it as like the old Westeros boards where you could give yourself on once you reached a certain post count.
Title: Re: Prince(s) of Nothing
Post by: mrganondorf on April 20, 2017, 03:50:06 pm: nice! even after Kellhus becomes the AE his is a 'prince of nothing' in the dunyain sense--that humans are bound by chains of smoke -- bakker's quote about how every slave is a king the moment the slavemaster looks away
Title: Re: Prince(s) of Nothing
Post by: Wilshire on April 20, 2017, 07:22:47 pm: This topic was moved from the TTT subforum to General Earwa due to spoiler content beyond the scope of that subforum.

General Earwa is open spoilers so please continue the conversation here, unhindered.
Title: Re: Prince(s) of Nothing
Post by: Francis Buck on April 21, 2017, 11:42:59 pm: Serwe also continuously refers to herself as nothing, no one...

Princess of Nothing.
Title: Re: Prince(s) of Nothing
Post by: mrganondorf on April 25, 2017, 01:32:22 am: Quote from: Wilshire on April 20, 2017, 07:22:47 pm
This topic was moved from the TTT subforum to General Earwa due to spoiler content beyond the scope of that subforum.

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