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General Misc. / Jordan Harbinger Podcast
« on: April 18, 2019, 02:08:01 pm »
I'm surprised I haven't shared any links from this show.

Anyhow, this is one certain to appeal in different ways to Bakker fans:

- Beau Lotto - Why You See Differently When You Deviate

Much to wrestle with. I wish I had written down my thoughts when I first listened to it because I had a handful of quibbles.

Also, now that I think of it, I thought I had posted this one before but if not:

- David Eagleman - How Your Brain Makes Sense of the World (also have quibbles with this but you know me - the quibbler.)

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General Misc. / Re: Board Games and Miniatures
« on: April 13, 2019, 12:21:16 pm »
Very nice, H. Kids thought it was neat too.

I always liked the story behind the Necrons.

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The Unholy Consult / Re: "Kellhus is dead, but not done."
« on: April 13, 2019, 12:16:46 pm »
Generally speaking, I think most of everything Bakker has ever said is either purposefully misleading (recent stuff in the last few years), or unaware of the specifics (older info from way back) which is now irrelevant or largely misleading. Regarding Serwe, whatever she was supposed to be, I think it was intended to be very clear by now. Thus, I think Serwe's whole thing was being the sympathetic catalyst which ends up uniting all of humanity against the consult. Yes, that's mundane and uninteresting, but I think that's all there is too it - things aren't always as complicated as we make them out to be.

Keep in mind his Serwe comments were largely as a rebuttal to the online stuff happening surrounding him at the time. I think Bakker has shown time and again a pretty extreme misunderstanding of the people he's talking to or trying to reach out too, and most probably (imo) the serwe comment was worded very poorly to begin with and is now taken out of context in the Earwa online noosphere.

Cue FB's Earwa's Original Sin commentary. Though, I personally think "something something pure ignorance" is more her narrative antecedent and I've always liked that "the reader has Serwe in their hands and Kellhus in their heads" (badly paraphrased) quote, as per those aforementioned out of text contemporary commentaries.

@Wilshire - i agree w/your comments re: Bakker. At this point i find him to be an intentionally undependable narrator of his own story in a lot of ways. Im sure he would tell me that my loss of faith in him would be his goal and that i am now better off.

Ill buy whatever, if anything, comes next but im much more neutral towards the author and thus the work.

Nice to see you around again, Rots. It would be nice to communicate in The Agora sometime, given my lack of time to post in the past two years :( (though, I'm working on it).

@Wilshire - i agree w/your comments re: Bakker. At this point i find him to be an intentionally undependable narrator of his own story in a lot of ways. Im sure he would tell me that my loss of faith in him would be his goal and that i am now better off.

Ill buy whatever, if anything, comes next but im much more neutral towards the author and thus the work.
This really resonates with me, Rots. Similarly, I no longer completely trust Bakker as a story-teller, and, as you note, that's probably the position in which he wants to place his readers. It's a very modern, or perhaps even a modernist approach to fiction.

He claims to have avoided the postmodernist pitfalls a la Gene Wolfe, BFK, but I'm never sure.

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General Earwa / Re: Inri Sejenus
« on: April 12, 2019, 05:17:45 pm »
Not false.

In-text Inrithism believes Sejenus ascended to the Nail from the Juterum (sp?) in Shimeh while, I believe, TTT Glossary suggests that he actually ascended somewhere in ruined Kyudea. Neither debate the ascension.

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Whah whah. Editing on mobile is inconceivable.

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Cagey. Lol.

Kellhus wasn't a part of the mass TTT/TUC Ciphrang summoning, right?

There a number of bullet points to discern there aren't there. This might collapse the answers as to whether Kellhus or a Nonman Quya could summon one of the names Hundred (and I am one of the rare assholes who can leak things but I am of FB's opinion that The Carathayan short opens up a lot of the world regarding TNG and Kellhus' "dead but not done" status.

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I do believe there is a ZTS quote (badly paraphrashing) that suggests that Nonmen experimented with harnessing 'agencies' with the Gnosis but then said "better not."

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General Misc. / Re: AOM Podcast
« on: April 03, 2019, 11:41:07 am »
Wow, I forgot to post the other one which I think is a must listen (if not a must read, as per the book in question) for Bakker fans:

- Why Visiting Dark Places Is Good for the Soul

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General Misc. / Re: InspiroBot
« on: April 01, 2019, 03:37:57 pm »
That's cool.

Also, Tao, that's a quality offering from InspiroBot.

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General Earwa / Re: Inri Sejenus
« on: April 01, 2019, 03:33:33 pm »
They were still openly sparring with Mangaecca (which actually doesn't seem possible as our understanding of the Consult progressed over the books) like 300 years before 41xx or whatever year it is the books start (as per a random thought by Achamian in TDTCB) - edit: I based much of my first fan fiction on that exact paragraph with some assists from ZTS comments by Bakker.

I believe Inri Sejenus is born five years after the 11 Years of the Crib (the No-God's first advent).

Always been interesting thoughts about Sejenus. You'd imagine that any religion or philosophy of Earwa would have to engage and digest the fact that some kind of thing stopped birth for 11 years and that the clergy of the time felt that the Gods had abandoned Humankind. Something something the Gods punished us for our transgressions with the Apocalypse, etc, etc.

You have to imagine that the Kiunniat (sp?) tradition was ripe for reinterpretation whether there's something nefarious about Sejenus or not.


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General Misc. / Re: AOM Podcast
« on: March 30, 2019, 01:16:32 pm »

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Literature / Re: Writing Prompt: The Overweight Elf
« on: March 27, 2019, 12:39:11 pm »
Crouton. Great name.

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General Misc. / Re: DUNE movie cast revealed
« on: March 19, 2019, 09:26:03 pm »
Hans Zimmer got tapped to score.

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The Almanac: PON Edition / Re: ARC: TTT Chapter 15
« on: March 14, 2019, 11:45:21 pm »
Note he's hiding underground like a Nonman - where the God's can't see him?

Yeah, I think we've assumed that before but Mallahet does appear in Momemn to meet with Xerius.


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The Almanac: PON Edition / Re: ARC: TTT Chapter 15
« on: March 14, 2019, 03:54:19 am »
I know I keep swooping and not adding much but this is another amazing chapter - as the end of TTT should be.

I've said it before and I'll repeat it again but I parallel TWP/WLW&TGO and TTT almost then directly seems to structure the same as TUC. Even some of those quotes seem to have fairly obvious counterparts in TUC - (I can even track line by line siblings between the two books).

Rereading the summary of one of Moenghus' quotes (along with FB's recent post) makes me wonder if the Gods are unable to inhabit the Cishaurim as they can non-Cishaurim...

Some very interesting thoughts to chew on but I'll have to post them in a TUC thread.

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