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I think Akka knew no one would care what he said about anything - the condemnation would have no effect - but sometimes you just have to let it out. I surmise he was part of the TTT, otherwise Kellhus would've dispatched of him ... or feelings, perhaps? Remnants of camaraderie? Owed him one for the Gnosis? Kellhus likely calculated Akka would hide, so likely no risk of him upending his empire, but maybe useful in the future ... being the real prophet the people needed.

Nice find, Beard - thanks for sharing. I think R will include this in the next history/glossary.

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Philosophy & Science / Re: Another galaxy without dark matter
« on: April 18, 2019, 11:15:48 pm »
Recall, Newtonian equations seemed to explain gravitation, until we realized they didn't really, only from one inertial perspective.  So, something akin to that might be the case here.  We figure that the "seemingly missing" force must be from "something" and so infer that this something is Dark Matter/Energy.  It could be the case that we simply are not "using the right perspective" or that our method of calculation is just missing something.

Yeah, when I first learned a bit about this dark stuff and then heard about a galaxy with none of it - I was like, well that galaxy looks just fine ( could be it's not ), so this dark stuff ain't necessary - or it could be like you say, since we think something is there we know nothing about, could be it's not there and we're not understanding something that can explain our results/readings.
Actually, it's the opposite. The fact that you can find galaxies that behave as if there's no dark matter strengthens the conclusion that there IS something dark and heavy and at the same time demolishes alternate theories (for how would these galaxies without dark matter behave as they do in that case?).

Forgive me, I'm out of my depth here - you're right, it's their spin that's off that alerts us to a lack of dark matter, not something measured.

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Philosophy & Science / Re: Another galaxy without dark matter
« on: April 18, 2019, 09:01:27 pm »
Recall, Newtonian equations seemed to explain gravitation, until we realized they didn't really, only from one inertial perspective.  So, something akin to that might be the case here.  We figure that the "seemingly missing" force must be from "something" and so infer that this something is Dark Matter/Energy.  It could be the case that we simply are not "using the right perspective" or that our method of calculation is just missing something.

Yeah, when I first learned a bit about this dark stuff and then heard about a galaxy with none of it - I was like, well that galaxy looks just fine ( could be it's not ), so this dark stuff ain't necessary - or it could be like you say, since we think something is there we know nothing about, could be it's not there and we're not understanding something that can explain our results/readings.

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Philosophy & Science / Re: Another galaxy without dark matter
« on: April 18, 2019, 05:37:33 pm »
Dark matter and Dark Energy are just words for "unknown shit we dont understand and know next to nothing about".

Yeah, but we know it's there ... gives me the creepy crawlies  ;D

Well, to be my usual pedantic self, we really don't "know" it exists, but we infer that it seems it simply must exist....

Oh, "it's" there - force don't come from nothin'

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Philosophy & Science / Re: Another galaxy without dark matter
« on: April 18, 2019, 04:36:04 pm »
Dark matter and Dark Energy are just words for "unknown shit we dont understand and know next to nothing about".

Yeah, but we know it's there ... gives me the creepy crawlies  ;D

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General Misc. / Re: Quotes
« on: April 18, 2019, 01:59:13 pm »
Quote
Love is at the root at everything, all learning, all relationships, love or the lack of it.

 - Fred Rogers ( "Mr. Rogers" )

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General Misc. / Re: Board Games and Miniatures
« on: April 13, 2019, 09:17:27 pm »
Well, finally sort of got around to doing something...

So, here is something of a "color study" on a Necron (well, half of one)

Nice work, thanks for sharing :)

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Philosophy & Science / Re: Black Hole Sun: On the Materialist Sublime
« on: April 11, 2019, 11:48:13 pm »
This is an amazing read, Sci :)

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That sounds correct, so ... yes? Admittedly I'm not sure exactly what you mean with all those terms though lol.

Oh I just mean the following:

Efficient Causation: A -causes-> B -causes-> C

Final Causation A -causes-> B, rather than anything else, because there is a future end that is directing the A->B relation to some event.

I think I'm following - could you provide an example? Doesn't have to be in the book, but fill in A, B and C - only if you feel like it, not trying to dump work on you.

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General Misc. / Re: DUNE movie cast revealed
« on: April 11, 2019, 02:24:03 pm »
I've been watching clips of the David Lynch "Dune" from 1985. Underrated.

Agreed, I liked the Lynch Dune movie, but I'm looking forward to a new treatment of it. I didn't like Lynch's treatment of House Harkonen, but I liked what he did with the Atriedes, Fremen and the Bene Gesserit. It was well directed, good acting, some nice cinematography and fun to watch. Some of the score was good as well.

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Philosophy & Science / Re: Another galaxy without dark matter
« on: April 11, 2019, 01:25:33 pm »
One more galaxy stripped clean by the No-God.

This actually made me laugh out loud - that said, it's troubling to consider your joke seriously - it could be the result of someone and not something.

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Philosophy & Science / Re: Black Hole Sun: On the Materialist Sublime
« on: April 11, 2019, 01:07:49 pm »
1. From what perspective can the photograph of the black hole be described as "beautiful" or "sublime"?

From wonder - it's one thing to mathematically discover and quite another to see it with our own eyes. I think it was Einstein who said ( badly paraphrasing ) experiments amaze more than math can. Anything that can generate wonder falls in the category as exciting, sublime ( the Goad? ).

2. If a black hole is a work of art, who is the artist? ("Work" implies a worker)

Unsettled human business - some say "God", others "god", others "nothing", others "don't know" ... that said, the author could've been lazing with this language and simply leveraging artistic verbiage with sublime. I think all the author was saying is the human experience of art need not be limited to human productions, plenty of art in nature.

3. What can it mean for quantum matter to "perform"? Does an oscillating pendulum "perform"?

I took this as experiencing experiments is akin to experiencing art. If this is the point, it explains the usage of artistic verbiage. But I could be wrong, maybe the author is saying quantum is "performing".

4. From what perspective can a aesthetic judgment that quantum activity is "performatively sublime" be made?

Well, all art is in the eye - plenty of "great art" out there many think would be better used for toilet paper. I think all the author is saying is it's valid to stare at this picture with wonder, awe and humility and allow yourself to emotively learn from the experience as we do when viewing art. I'm not agreeing/disagreeing with the author, just what I think the point of the article is.

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General Misc. / Re: AOM Podcast
« on: April 05, 2019, 02:08:04 pm »
Wow, I forgot to post the other one which I think is a must listen (if not a must read, as per the book in question) for Bakker fans:

- Why Visiting Dark Places Is Good for the Soul
That would be an excellent debate topic. Perhaps a "Bakker vs. Peterson" showdown?

Can we add Sam? It could be like a WWE cage match ...

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Philosophy & Science / Re: Another galaxy without dark matter
« on: April 04, 2019, 02:42:03 am »
Wicked!

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General Misc. / Re: InspiroBot
« on: April 01, 2019, 10:10:05 pm »
This was featured in an NPR podcast recently, might have been Invisibilia.

Just confirming that it is just running words through an algorithm to generate random phrases that have the same type of sentence structure and choice words as whatever its database of memes it uses as a data set. The creators had a great laugh at how popular it has become (also we liked it before it was cool!).

That's cool.

Also, Tao, that's a quality offering from InspiroBot.

My apologies to you both - I thought the formatting of it would reveal this did not come from Inspirobot, but I should've made it clear that I was "helping" Inspirobot out since we've not heard from it in a while. I copied from elsewhere, thought it would be a nice contribution here - a fusion of Inspirobot and PON, if you will.

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