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The Great Ordeal / Re: Sranc POV?
« on: October 10, 2019, 11:47:43 am »
I'm pretty sure there's sranc POV at the start of Judging Eye, where they are tracking the Skin Eaters.

There might be other instances, but not many, and not any I can recall off hand.

(also it looks like you double posted so I removed the other topic)

The Unholy Consult / Re: (TUC Spoilers) Thoughts on TUC
« on: October 04, 2019, 02:59:38 pm »
For all we know, finding Mommy might have been all that Nau was doing as the NG as well :P .

I think modern economic theory diverges from previous theory by realizing that humans do not act either rationally nor in their best interest. SO I think that supports your thought there.

I would think stability is, or at least should be, a viable measure of economic value. Things tend to not be great when people don't feel safe. Probably because our economies are built on spending money, when people feel unsafe they hoard it, which makes things even more unstable - downward spiral ensues.

The Unholy Consult / Re: (TUC Spoilers) Thoughts on TUC
« on: October 02, 2019, 03:24:47 pm »
No-God reminds me of Sin from FFX. Spoilers, its a big ass monster that destroys  cities, and when whoever kills it becomes it the next time around. You break the cycle of rebirth by doing some flim flam involving utilizing the emotions of the previous insertant and killing it in a special way so that it doesn't regenerate.

Kelmomas being a known quantity and hyper obsessed with Esmi is a pretty close approximation of that scenario.

Yeah its not an unfair solution. Everything has a cost, and in cases with public money "someone else" is always going to pay for it.

The Unholy Consult / Re: (TUC Spoilers) Thoughts on TUC
« on: October 01, 2019, 07:49:54 pm »
The first turned into 3 books itself.

Since he split the entire series from 3 books to 3 individual series, TNG was always 2 books (with PON and TAE supposed to be 3 books).

I think 2 is likely, with 3 being possible if he gets into it.

The Unholy Consult / Re: (TUC Spoilers) Thoughts on TUC
« on: October 01, 2019, 02:30:12 pm »
I didnt mean to suggest that TNG would be a rehash. Only insofar as the entire TSA series is a rehash of the First Apocalypse to begin (which it most definitely is) and historical events repeating keeps happening both in long term and even shorter term (Short term: moenghus->20 years->dies chorae, repeated by Kellhus->20 years-> dies chorae. Long Term: See Ordeal in First Apocalypse and Great Ordeal in Second).

IMO the conclusion of the Mog Pharau itself is pretty inevitable. The specific How will be different than last time around, and the timing might be way different. There's only supposed to be 2 books, and one of them is following around Crabicus (probably). My suspicion is that the entire ending saga will be rather succinct, with much of the story arcs concluded in the first book, and the second book a bunch of exposition with Crabicus and Narrator after the end of the world is resolved.

The Unholy Consult / Re: (TUC Spoilers) Thoughts on TUC
« on: October 01, 2019, 12:48:21 pm »
I still love the books, just feeling quite meh about their author. Compartmentalizing ftw!
I think many people feel this way.

Its pretty interesting that it lines up with what I've been feeling for quite some time, which is that the bare geographic size of the US is limiting our effectiveness at governing ourselves. Its fairly obvious that someone in the  heart of Arkansa farmland, for example, will want and need drastically different things than a person in the heart of NYC.

People like to say that technology has made the world small, but it has simultaneously made the world larger than life. People now have the ability to see, in real time, how dramatically different their fellow countryman are. There's very little solidarity to be had when you can now see up close and personal how unlike yourself the rest of the country looks and feels.

That solution seems pretty painful though (and I don't have an alternative). Putting "those people" in hospice and waiting for them to die seems... sad.

That's an interesting blurb, if not groundbreaking - the urban/rural divide has been around for quite some time.

I wonder if he offers any suggestions on how to reverse the increasing tension and lessen the divide.

The Unholy Consult / Re: (TUC Spoilers) Thoughts on TUC
« on: September 30, 2019, 02:35:50 pm »
That's what spoiler tags are for, besides the classic Glomar response (or bakker's own RAFO).

The Unholy Consult / Re: (TUC Spoilers) Thoughts on TUC
« on: September 30, 2019, 02:01:42 pm »
Lol, well the example I cite is an old one, but he said Cnaiur's story arc was finished. Which, clearly, no. Most of the things people bring up more recently are probably misinterpretation, but when you set out to be deceiving its hard to call it something else.

I agree that Humanity's  "win condition" is not killing all the sranc, the consult, nor getting rid of the gods and their hells. Given the whole repeating history bit, the win would probably be the undoing of the No God, just like last time. As with the first apocalypse, billions of sranc didn't seem to help much after the big yoke controlling them all was destroyed - I don't see any reason for why that wouldn't work a second time.

The Unholy Consult / Re: (TUC Spoilers) Thoughts on TUC
« on: September 30, 2019, 12:40:21 pm »
To succinctly answer all your questions: No. There has been no further clarification. Bakker went radio silent for over year, this month was actually his first TPB in a year, and its obviously been longer since he's said anything about the books.

FWIW, I hope he doesn't do any more online Q&A/AMA/etc. things, for the sake of his fans. Because, yes, his interactions tend towards outright trolling, even if unintentional (which in many cases I doubt). When talking about the books, he is always obfuscating, usually disingenuous, and often lies outright. For me personally its entertaining, but I think he drives people away from the books, which is ultimately bad for the series.

So its probably for the best that he sticks to writing.

General Misc. / Re: Quotes
« on: September 24, 2019, 11:55:40 am »
I hope that quote, which is missing a period, was transcribed exactly as written.

The absence of the punctuation is very

General Misc. / Re: What are you watching?
« on: September 23, 2019, 06:11:08 pm »
Dubbed. Its just easier to consume, even though I have never found a case where dubbed is better than subbed as far as writing goes. Probably just can't speak english fast enough to line up with the screen, so sentences get clipped to simpler phrases.

The music in the show is brilliant, and each episode is basically discrete with only thin threads connecting to a greater story arch. Ironically, this  makes my wife more interested in watching them all, as he usually gets bored of series with a single plot and/or doesn't want to commit to it.

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