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Philosophy & Science / University of Chicago - MRI Brain Atlas
« on: March 06, 2018, 03:07:49 pm »
Link. Cool 8).

The Unholy Consult / Re: [TUC Spoilers] - Cnaļur/Ajokli theory
« on: March 06, 2018, 03:04:35 pm »
Welcome to the Second Apocalypse, Jabberwock :).

General Q&A / Re: Exact number of "nameless ones"?
« on: March 03, 2018, 02:47:01 pm »
However, I always got the impression that all the concubines that survived childbirth and birthed "nameless ones" (stillborn or not) were killed to keep that information from circulating.

Well, there Kellhus would have to weigh viability against secrecy (which is improbably rare for worldborn women with full-Dunyain - opposite, we don't even know, for instance, that Serwa can bear viable offspring). I imagine he might have tried a couple times with the first few concubines - isn't it the case he turns to surrogates after Esmenet's nameless one?

The Forum of Interesting Things / Re: The Intellectual War on Science
« on: March 03, 2018, 02:42:17 pm »
I was going to respond but then I realized I'm going to close the thread and I don't need to have "a last word" on the content in that case.

If any of you want to talk to me about that privately, do so. There are a couple of conversations in this thread that could be continued in more specific threads so we can try those anew separately as members choose.

General Q&A / Re: Exact number of "nameless ones"?
« on: March 03, 2018, 01:45:30 pm »
That's the interpretation I made the first time I read that chapter and I still think it's the one that makes the most sense (which would mean at least 6 sets of twins? maybe a set of triplets in there too, if two or more were singletons? anyway, definitely more proof that multiples run in the Anasūrimbor line).

It's also possible a number of seven could have also tried multiple times despite the frightening experience of the monstrosities.

Aside, but I think pertinent to the last couple comments, Theli was already likely immensely useful as Hitchhiker's Guide to Earwa. On her death it takes "fairly every advisor in the room" (badly paraphrasing) to answer the Away Exalt-General's questions in Theli's absence.

The whole thing seems dripping with significance beyond now they have a child and race away for their lives.

Kelmomas was a jarring reminder of families and home for the Ordeal at the Last Whelming. I'm sure a newborn could serve as potent motivation for the retreating Ordeal.

Was the "two weeks after TUC" something he said here?

"The next installment picks up several weeks after the disaster at Golgotterath."

Hey, I haven't gotten to re-read TUC, I am in the middle of comprehensive exams for my Ph.D and my brain is fried to hell. Can someone explain how we know for a fact Ajokli is in Kellhus' head? I have been reading through the forums and there's a lot of speculation but I can't seem to find a specific line where it says Ajokli was in Kellhus' head.

Welcome back, NronFisher. Strength on the journey, journey well.

I think what you were asking is how do we know it's Ajokli who takes over Kellhus in the Golden Room, rather than where his soul is after all is said and done, right?

On that answer, as far as I recall, we only have the validity of Malowebi's POV to go on.

Great work, TOT.

As time allows, I'll make these my wiki perusals and see if I can offer anything to sharpen your entries.

General Q&A / Re: Exact number of "nameless ones"?
« on: March 03, 2018, 01:21:15 pm »
That sentence is weirdly constructed, isn't it, TOT.

Upon scrutiny, I believe, the sentence is referring thirteen nameless ones borne of the remaining seven. It doesn't seem to specify whether the babies borne or stillborn of the ten who died in childbirth were monstrosities or not.

General Earwa / Re: [TUC SPOILERS] Foreshadowing in the books.
« on: March 03, 2018, 01:14:33 pm »
Pretty sure it's "Dunyain" and, as Achamian says to Cnaiur, that word is just "Truth" in ancient Kuniuric - making that catch even more neat in my mind.

What is in question here?  The quote is correct, it says "The Dūnyain."

Two drops of ink, one for Kellhus and one for Moėnghus, which is what the two drops inspire Akka to do, write Moe's name.  So, the two drops seem to be one for each of Kellhus and Moe, following their Thousandfold Thoughts, destroying (and remaking) the world.

Lol. As per Clozee's quotes, the two drops of ink "obliterate" one word. I believe Clozee's question was whether the word "obliterated" is "Dunyain" or "Kellhus?"

The Unholy Consult / Re: [TUC Spoilers] Kelmomas, Nau-Cayuti and causality
« on: February 28, 2018, 02:15:25 pm »
Okay, then how did Serwa get identified as one of the Few as a three-year-old? Because I might be a tad confused about that. Was she actually attempting to perform sorcery at that age? Did someone think to check using the Wathi Doll or a similar method like Akka did with Kellhus?

As we've surmised elsewhere, Achamian vaguely refers to a test done by the Mandate Pederisk which identifies children Few. It very well might be the Wathi Doll test but it could be as simple as putting three objects in front of a child and asking them to pick out the "different" (Marked) one.

General Earwa / Re: [TUC SPOILERS] Foreshadowing in the books.
« on: February 28, 2018, 02:10:11 pm »
he wrote,


in the open space to the left of,


He held his quill above the ancient word for some time. Two drops of ink—tap-tap—marred the script. He watched them bleed outward, chasing a million infinitesimal veins, obliterating the word.

If it's "Dunyain", dunno. Could be about how Cnaiur kills Moenghus and Achamian is involved in the death of Koringhus.

Pretty sure it's "Dunyain" and, as Achamian says to Cnaiur, that word is just "Truth" in ancient Kuniuric - making that catch even more neat in my mind.

General Earwa / Re: [TUC Spoilers] Nascenti of Zaudunyanicon
« on: February 28, 2018, 02:02:20 pm »
Welcome to the Second Apocalype, Clozee.

We definitely haven't forgotten but as Wilshire said.

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