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Philosophy & Science / Re: Sam Harris on why Materialism is Nonsensical
« on: October 21, 2018, 10:16:13 pm »
The Mystery of Consciousness | Sam Harris

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Consciousness—the sheer fact that this universe is illuminated by sentience—is precisely what unconsciousness is not. And I believe that no description of unconscious complexity will fully account for it. It seems to me that just as “something” and “nothing,” however juxtaposed, can do no explanatory work, an analysis of purely physical processes will never yield a picture of consciousness. However, this is not to say that some other thesis about consciousness must be true. Consciousness may very well be the lawful product of unconscious information processing. But I don’t know what that sentence means—and I don’t think anyone else does either.
Sam Harris seems to have run into the "Hard Problem of Consciousness", i.e. the relationship between conscious experience and physical processes. If you ask me personally, it's just a trivial non-problem. Why is it such a big deal that we "can't explain consciousness" in intentional terms or what have you? A physical description would be enough, and even if that's not tractable, approximations will do fine. I don't feel uncomfortable thinking about how my conscious experience is the result of proteins opening and closing due to ion concentrations etc. a trillion neurons etc.

But how/why does consciousness arise from that? If nothing else, it's a cool mystery worth exploring - might find some cool stuff.

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Philosophy & Science / Re: Should AIs be Given Rights?
« on: October 21, 2018, 02:46:20 pm »
Ah if AI refers to any synthetic production then my answer changes to Yes.

???

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Philosophy & Science / Re: Should AIs be Given Rights?
« on: October 21, 2018, 01:40:49 am »
Fuck NO! lol were already messing up by making them look human.
there are already an android that look like a woman, thats to far.

The first purpose for AI's won't be for benign contributions to understanding the universe - but for commerce, and the most in demand would be for sexual services. So, yes, AI's housed in human form will come if AI is achievable. I voted no mostly due to my bias that we won't be able to ever pull it off. ACI, artificial conscious intelligence is synonymous with AI for most conversations on the subject as an AI that's not conscious is just a machine learning construct. The day we can replicate the activity of the brain with hardware is the day we get a more interesting AI and still won't be conscious, won't sport subjective experiences and still reside in the realm of being a computer. Passing the Turing Test does not prove something is conscious.

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Philosophy & Science / Re: Sam Harris on why Materialism is Nonsensical
« on: October 21, 2018, 01:21:51 am »
The Samster is fun to read. Appears no gains still on where our thoughts come from and worse, the activity we witness in the brain does not seem near enough to produce our conscious experience which occurs without error - unless it doesn't as we can see with survivors of brain trauma/damage. I wonder what fractured/damaged consciousness is like ... but I'm not so curious to find out. That really horrifies me - that one day I fall to cracked/missing parts of consciousness, seems like it's hell, but maybe only as viewed by others - do sufferers actually suffer in such a state, or as their conscious is impaired maybe their experience of suffering is also impaired ... or maybe not and our mind is caged. I have no mouth, but I need to scream.

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General Misc. / Re: Quotes
« on: October 16, 2018, 01:44:41 am »
Bertrand Russell:

"I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong."

"Life is nothing but a competition to be the criminal rather than the victim."

"One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important."

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General Misc. / Re: Board Games and Miniatures
« on: October 14, 2018, 03:36:35 am »
The miniatures for that game are amazing TH. I was looking at the kickstarter page - awesome!

Glad you like them! I backed it and if/when I get them, I'll post pictures of them painted ( Best case June-2019  :( ).

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General Misc. / Re: Board Games and Miniatures
« on: October 12, 2018, 09:20:05 pm »
You mean the Imp, not the dead human he's on, correct? not sure I see it, you mean the legs are too long/big?

No, the human guy.  To me it looks like from where his knee bends to what I imagine the length of his thigh should be doesn't leave room for his hips/rest of his abdomen.  Again, maybe that is just me though...

You might be right - there is something off about the human, I struck it up to he's dead and when you're dead, you kinda collapse and flail, nothing keeping you upright and tight. Like sitting in that position doesn't look right or comfortable, but when dead, contortions can be more pronounced before rigor. But I'm no expert, my thinking there may be well off. Could be his scale is off.

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General Misc. / Re: Board Games and Miniatures
« on: October 12, 2018, 08:09:00 pm »
A denizen of Earwa?

I dig it.  Perhaps it is an illusion of the perspective, but his lower half seems disproportionate to the upper.  It might be one of those things where the real scale looks less real than an exaggerated one though...

You mean the Imp, not the dead human he's on, correct? not sure I see it, you mean the legs are too long/big?

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General Misc. / Re: What are you watching?
« on: October 12, 2018, 01:57:36 pm »
Currently watching The Good Place.

I thought the concept sounded stupid.  But I actually watched it and the show is pretty smart and entertaining.

Yeah, my wife has been watching this, I should jump in at some point.

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General Misc. / Re: What are you watching?
« on: October 12, 2018, 01:53:59 pm »
Another surprise, I really liked Castle Rock quite a bit, would give it an A rating. Another I thought I would be bored or thought it stupid - but I like the slow roll surprise ending, much of the mystery is "revealed" by the end and wasn't something I guessed but at the same time it made sense. For you horror enthusiasts, highly recommend it, it's a Hulu original. TL, I think you would dig this.

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General Misc. / Re: Board Games and Miniatures
« on: October 12, 2018, 01:02:40 pm »
A denizen of Earwa?



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General Misc. / Re: Board Games and Miniatures
« on: October 05, 2018, 01:53:37 pm »
UPDATE!

Ok, hard to believe, but I actually by chance ( well, by my social media scanning effort ) connected with someone close with the Darkness Sabotage Kickstarter and they shared a lot of helpful information on what happened and current status. This individual appears legitimate, but can't say anything in the disembodied reality commonly known as the internet is 100% bonafide. Regardless, I'm satisfied with the information and calling off any of you getting your shhhoottgguunnss in order. Thank you for your kind consideration and here's hoping the Dez-ster gets back up off the mat and finishes this thing off.

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General Misc. / Re: Board Games and Miniatures
« on: October 01, 2018, 03:37:12 am »
Thanks, Beard! Always have my back, appreciate it, brother!

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General Misc. / Re: Board Games and Miniatures
« on: September 27, 2018, 08:16:13 pm »
I was actually just checking that you wanted me to actually go to someone's house and ask them about stealing all monies. It sure looked that way but i thought best check before i label you crazier then me. :D

Yes - I would like someone to knock on his door, when he answers, say something to the effect, "hey man, you don't know me, but could you let me know if/when you intend to deliver Darkness Sabotage?". It can be a respectful exchange. Warning, do not try to hurt him or his property once you've been identified - the suggestion to egg his house was a joke. This is a request to anyone living near his home and would enjoy performing this task, not asking anyone to put themselves out or do anything they would not want to do.

I got the Private message from you, we'll move this over to secured communication channel, once my fee has cleared.

LMAO! Ok, sounds good, LOL!

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General Misc. / Re: Board Games and Miniatures
« on: September 27, 2018, 05:48:01 pm »
I was actually just checking that you wanted me to actually go to someone's house and ask them about stealing all monies. It sure looked that way but i thought best check before i label you crazier then me. :D

Yes - I would like someone to knock on his door, when he answers, say something to the effect, "hey man, you don't know me, but could you let me know if/when you intend to deliver Darkness Sabotage?". It can be a respectful exchange. Warning, do not try to hurt him or his property once you've been identified - the suggestion to egg his house was a joke. This is a request to anyone living near his home and would enjoy performing this task, not asking anyone to put themselves out or do anything they would not want to do.

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