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Author Q&A / Re: Skin-spies...?
« on: July 11, 2018, 06:57:16 pm »
According to Ga÷rta, when talking to Kellhus in TWP, they are ancient. While the Mandate believes they are recent Tekne creations, from the past 300 years. Which explanation is correct?

Maybe both? Their simple intelligent sparks could be awaken, conscient and present since the times of the crash or even earlier than that. But their chassis, for the lack of better word, is a later invention.

I won't wonder if they are just a repurposed subsystems of the Arc, which were just hanging from some forgotten wall for millenia until some mangaeccan intern stumbled upon them by chance.

General Q&A / Re: [TGO/TUC Spoilers]The Boy, Crab Hand
« on: July 11, 2018, 06:46:17 pm »
Did it ever outline what his defect was?

My main bet is... it's a biggest, reddest herring in the whole series. Boy have a perfectly normal hand, nothing to worry about. It's just that late duniyain at last got in some positive-feedback mistake because of their advanced body-reading skill and mistreated the impression.

Or -- he is as much advanced duniyain to Koringhus as Koringhus was to Kellhus and thus pragmas were unable to see his superiority, just like with error. They saw him as flawed because he stepped over to somewhere where they will never ever be capable of walking at all.

The Unholy Consult / Re: Another (perhaps) simple question
« on: July 11, 2018, 06:33:17 pm »
Watts for Scifi and Bakker for Fantasy are my current two favorite authors!
This. They are like, I dunno, columns and rows in the table.

General Earwa / Re: TSA related art and stuff. (VI)
« on: June 20, 2018, 03:14:05 pm »
Dunno the author.
But there is something about the Inchoroi approach to evolution.

The Unholy Consult / Re: Identity of the Mutilated
« on: April 29, 2018, 05:01:40 am »
Fair enough. I should have said I don't see the point of the self harm in this case.

Remember how Kellhus surprised an terrified Akka by absorbing cutting-edge knowledge like logic or gnosis and instantly jumping to their advanced, unknown forms? It was mostly possible because he's a brilliant student, but also because Akka is a great teacher capable of conveying difficult concepts with ease.

Now imagine all troubles of studying a tekne from two broken inchoroi relicts, who were not the brightest insects in the swarm even before that velvet duniyain revolution. On the one hand, mistakes would certainly have a place. On the other hand, duniyain are capable of vivisecting themselves if they consider it a shortest path to extracting the scientific knowledge they need.

Mutilated are so Moenghus the Cishaurim.

The Unholy Consult / Re: Another (perhaps) simple question
« on: April 29, 2018, 04:41:17 am »
Quote from: natanaj
Fkin elder things

Wait, is that Blindsight? Amazing book.

It's ctulhu mythos. But yes, Blindsight is excellent. Did you read the sequel?

General Earwa / Re: (Spoilers All) (Srancpost) The Solitary God
« on: April 29, 2018, 04:28:51 am »
It's the Bakkerverse. Wrong as "they took fantazies for facts, screw those idiots" or wrong as "they made just a little mistake but in the most important place, poor-poor people"? These are very distant kinds of wrong Ś and I dunno in which one the Solitary God is just an uber-ciphrang, who torned himself into a bunch of tinier, less-cruel gods and demons.

The Unholy Consult / Re: Another (perhaps) simple question
« on: April 24, 2018, 03:18:53 pm »
And yet, there are recent forays into the area of animal, and even plant, sentience.

It's all fun and games untill they stand roughly eight feet tall and have the appearance of a huge, oval-shaped barrel with starfish-like appendages at both end. :P

The Unholy Consult / Re: Another (perhaps) simple question
« on: April 24, 2018, 02:53:01 pm »
Simas Polchias, I like it. Can't think of anything that contradicts that explicitly.

Thank you, Wilshire! I've already done that, lol. The weakest link of such theory is book-proofed but still scarce information about topos/tortute relation. All explanation I could imagine is gods are fond of torture in their world and they are attracted by mass torture in the world of living. With a considerable stretch, a place without suffering would be hidden from their attention or the last one in line to check? Maybe, if you die there, you will have Oblivion like nonmen did.

You can apparently create very nearly a tear into the outside with what amounts to sticks and stones (endless millennium of mundane torture).

I. Just. Can. Not. Resist.

Next time I'm making a joke about tyranids running from duniyains, slap me.

Wow, Simas - that is awesome - I dig it, makes sense. Just need to figure out what makes the few the few, would take it no god would allow that genetic variation/mutation to occur, unless it is the string that pulls ( Bakker saying god generated reality could not possibly be perfect, there is some error somewhere ... ).

Thank you! My bet is on exposure to the Outside, you know, like a "fantazy evolution" scenario.

There is theory about human ancestors had a weakening mutation of jaw muscles, which were not unlike gorillas before that. There were other factors constibuting to brain's growth and complication of it's higher function, of course, but powerful muscles spanning from jaws to occiput/crown were clenching the skull and limiting it size in the very beginning. Presumable mutation came from natural radiation like meteorite or african uranium deposits, made a lot of hominids into poor chewers, but gave their long descendants a chance to stack intelligence through different means and processes.

The Ouside is a phenomenon out of time and space, which sounds like a possible evolution frontier for creatures who flow linearly in time, have to navigate the space with primitive appendages/machines, are easily damaged by spatial variations (no air you die, magma around you die, no amynoacids around you die etc).

The guess is Ś if intelligent creatures, who are still limited by the "natural" world, came in contact with the "supernatural" world, they undergo a process not unlike those irratiated hominids. Something breaks, something appears. The Outside stacks in them and in their progeny to the point when their long-long descendants will be capable to affect natural world with methods highly-unburdened by time, causality etc. With sorcery, I mean.

That may explain the hatred from (some?) gods towards sorcerors. I recon most of people will hate the idea of cultivated or wild plants becoming sentient, it just won't fit into their established image of evolution.

Yes, you're putting it very accurate about the defect and the belonging (I'm not a native speaker, sometimes it's difficult to express a thought, especially an escaping one).

Maybe that's also Anasurimbor "peculiarity" in context of the sarcophagus? Some uber-stable trait, which manifests itself on many levels from genetics to god know how abstract and subtle.

The Darkness That Comes Before / Re: My live reactions from Tumblr
« on: April 23, 2018, 04:33:55 pm »
Awesome idea, awesome notes. Like a delicacy, but a text/post.

The Unholy Consult / Re: Another (perhaps) simple question
« on: April 23, 2018, 04:10:05 pm »
Or perhaps they are scouring the universe for all places like Earwa where the Outside can be reached, and are slowing colonizing the closed worlds behind their Inchoroi armadas.


My guess was about other planets of Bakkerverse can form topoi or be subject to anti-topoi measures (which is technically approaching to the Outside / distancing from the Outside, opening the World / shutting the World). But they have no sorcery. You will have to shut these world manually one by one and hope one day you will find or research some new, more efficient, universe-wide method. Inchoroi were lucky to find sorcery, gnosis  and Shae÷nanra, lol.

Assumption is. Sorcery is an "intelligence within intelligence", a rule-breaker. There is mostly empty space in the universe. Sometime there are stars. Even less, there are planets. Life is ever more rare thing. Intelligence? Much more rare. Intelligence capable of sorcery? Maybe the rarest thing possible.

Without sorcery you can create topos-wide planet by torturing it's intelligent population. Without sorcery you can shut the said world through forced evolution (torture is about pain, pain is about experience of tissue trauma, science can destroy the very existence of torure, including psychical one -- nonmen innoculation seems like a botched attempt of it).
But it's just a local event. After making the numerous population, ahem, into 144000 post-specie creatures, you are safe on the shut world. Gods won't recognize it or you anymore. It's better than to just count on your immortality and never dying, but it's still a procrastination. Contitents will migrate, supervulcanos will awaken, stars will grow and devour a whole planet. One day you will have to pack your tekne and find youself a new world, starting the cycle again.

With sorcery you can completely change the field and the rules of this game. So to say, you can gouge out eyes of gods instead of acting stealthy in front of them. Go full assault instead of hiding.

TL;DR Earwa is a final, non-procrastination solution to the Outside problem.

The Unholy Consult / Re: Another (perhaps) simple question
« on: April 18, 2018, 10:19:17 pm »
Crackpot time.

Do we actually know for a fact that "world" is a synonym for all reality and not just the stellar body? There could be numerous worlds already shut and numerous "crusader arcs" bringing salvation to the rest of the universe. It's just this one arc had a crash story, so it's highest weapon race is totally wrong about history of the shutting endeavour -- shutting was successfull all along and Earwa is a botched land, not promised one.

The Unholy Consult / Re: [TUC Spoilers] - Cna´ur/Ajokli theory
« on: April 18, 2018, 10:05:48 pm »
So, here is my idea. In my reading it make sens that Cna´ur isn't possessed by Ajokli at the end as I can read in many places, but instead become Ajokli.

So... If IF is the portal to the Ajokli's domain and Ajokli ascended on Earwa, wasn't that the very reason inchoroi recognized that Earwa as promised land?

I have trouble imagining that both of them became Ajokli in any shared way. That particular god doesn't war against itself but with others.

Ajoklikellhus dutifuly helps with the plan, but Ajoklicnaiur spreads the fuckery all over it! Bonus points if these two guys never meet each other -- so Ajoklicknealiluhrus doesn't understand why people call him the trickster. To put it shortly, Ajokli is a mad god.

But, all signs in the book point to the Gods existing before Arkfall, why else would it be the promised land??

It's a retroactive existence. There were no gods before Arkfall, but afther Arkfall they were always before Arkfall.

The Unholy Consult / Re: Identity of the Mutilated
« on: April 18, 2018, 09:53:19 pm »
Do we actually know for a fact those mutilations came from tortures by Consult and/or from war wounds? Could be a self-inflicted thing after getting full access to IF. That way the Unscarred is the one hell of a creepy person. Or he was in a control gropu to have both IFed and nonIFed duniyains. Or he's a mastermind who tested IF with others and just observed the results.

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