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Introduce Yourself / Re: Greetings!
« on: May 26, 2020, 01:02:29 pm »
Well met, Pendragon. Also, great name and great display name. Glad you decided to join us.

There are dozens of us! (Arrested Development joke ;).)

Literature / Re: Yearly Reading Targets 2020
« on: May 26, 2020, 12:58:49 pm »
You've come a long way since Salvatore ;).

Glad you read it, though I've tried to start the third book a number of times now and I'm feeling a Hyperion/Endymion split, as far as my appreciation goes.

The Unholy Consult / Re: Why would the Inchoroi fear damnation?
« on: May 14, 2020, 05:16:11 pm »
Most, if not all, of those journeys are Ajokli-mediated, though, right? Even in Kellhus' (!!) ignorance.

The Unholy Consult / Re: Why would the Inchoroi fear damnation?
« on: May 14, 2020, 03:36:26 pm »
Other ensouled beings looked into the Inverse Fire and their experience was very similar to that of the Inchoroi. In fact, Kellhus was the only different one in this regard.

True say. I need to write up on this - I do think (and I might be an outlier) that that one difference was due to Ajokellhus' possession (?) at the time.

EDIT: Accurate television portrayal. Convinced Murder-Bots to believe it mattered to them. Something something ;).

The Unholy Consult / Re: [TUC Spoilers] Ajokli, Gods, and Chorae
« on: May 08, 2020, 08:09:23 pm »
I miss your posts, Rots.

I can't say I disagree regarding the representation of OG-Consult.

(I'll be back later on topic.)

The Unholy Consult / Re: Why would the Inchoroi fear damnation?
« on: May 08, 2020, 08:06:29 pm »
I have other thoughts I want to get to in this thread (but I need time and space) and I'm actually not sure that we can do more than correlate souls to the ability to exercise sorcery *but* I can see only those who survived the onta-grasping graft (six Inchoroi total) being the only ensoulled of the Inchoroi-Sranc.

The Unholy Consult / [TUC Spoilers] Ajokli, Gods, and Chorae
« on: May 04, 2020, 09:04:39 pm »
I was reading a Reddit thread in the past couple weeks and one of the comments made me genuinely curious: by what mechanism do we think Ajokli/Kellhus could force all the Chorae and the skin-spies to the ground in the Ark?

The Unholy Consult / Re: Why would the Inchoroi fear damnation?
« on: May 04, 2020, 08:56:54 pm »
It crosses my mind that the Ark is simply a vessel, controlled by an advanced AI, which requires a guidance system/OS (Sarcophagus with an Insertant), and every Inchoroi etc. is actually a biomech machine, soulless from the beginning. The Progenitors deceived the Inchoroi with the Inverse Fire as a goad to carry out their orders, by showing the truth of damnation - however this damnation was only applicable to the Progenitors, NOT the Inchoroi, that are like upgraded Sranc and subject to the NG themselves upon Initiation/Resumption.

I think this is very likely succinct, stuslayer :). Though, Somnambulist has always made me wonder if Shauriatas has somehow managed to co-opt "the AI" and the Mutilated with some soultech sorcery combo.

Literature / Re: Yearly Reading Targets 2020
« on: March 19, 2020, 01:08:31 pm »
The Legend of Bagger Vance - Steven Pressfield (3)

Very impressed by it but I think that's mostly because I was once hit and miss with perennial philosophy and I've resumed being an avid and terrible golfer in the past half decade. I've been convinced in the past two years that everyone needs to find and read at least a handful of Pressfield's books in their lifetimes though, even if I don't necessarily agree with his underlying esoterics.

General Misc. / Re: Quotes
« on: March 12, 2020, 01:39:14 pm »
Don't trust our search function, sci. Also, I searched "Italo Calvino" who has apparently come up a number of times on the forum. Interesting.

Literature / Re: Yearly Reading Targets 2020
« on: March 11, 2020, 04:48:47 pm »

Surprise, Kill, Vanish - Annie Jacobsen (2)

Finally, I can report actually finishing a second book :).

I like reading about history fairly indiscriminately so I liked it. Mildly biased but no more than a few moments that were really off-putting. I'm told Jacobsen is a journalist before a historian but the research and writing training really should trend toward similarly unbiased either way.

I'm just glad I'm through it so I can move on to finishing other previously started books (this year*, as I won't count finishing ones I started before the New Year) - this one was really getting in the way given the attentional constraints around here.

Just continue this thread, if we need to move it or retitle it, we'll do so.

Infrequency is not criminal here ;). Come and go as you please.

General Q&A / Re: [PoN SPOILERS] Why are the Dunyain stronger and faster?
« on: February 27, 2020, 08:06:50 pm »
The quote from Ch.17 was the one I was thinking of, thank you.

General Q&A / Re: [PoN SPOILERS] Why are the Dunyain stronger and faster?
« on: February 27, 2020, 07:55:31 pm »
I'll have to look, I'm almost positive Kellhus' reminisces in TDTCB about the training in the ways of limb and face.

EDIT: Oh, yes, that quote. Right. Still, what I wrote above.

General Q&A / Re: [PoN SPOILERS] Why are the Dunyain stronger and faster?
« on: February 27, 2020, 07:48:42 pm »
I can't find the quote - and can't dig up my books at the moment - but every wiki (and -adjacent) description on the interwebs uses:

"[T]he Dûnyain have concealed themselves, breeding for reflex and intellect, and continually training in the ways of limb, thought, and face—all for the sake of reason, the sacred Logos."

EDIT: The latter half of that is almost certainly a direct quote from TDTCB. Also, my bold.

EDIT/EDIT: Unless it's a quote by Cnaiur in TTT to Achamian but I feel like this is a quote from TDTCB from Kellhus' POV.

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