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Aside, but I think pertinent to the last couple comments, Theli was already likely immensely useful as Hitchhiker's Guide to Earwa. On her death it takes "fairly every advisor in the room" (badly paraphrasing) to answer the Away Exalt-General's questions in Theli's absence.

The whole thing seems dripping with significance beyond now they have a child and race away for their lives.

Kelmomas was a jarring reminder of families and home for the Ordeal at the Last Whelming. I'm sure a newborn could serve as potent motivation for the retreating Ordeal.

Was the "two weeks after TUC" something he said here?

"The next installment picks up several weeks after the disaster at Golgotterath."

Hey, I haven't gotten to re-read TUC, I am in the middle of comprehensive exams for my Ph.D and my brain is fried to hell. Can someone explain how we know for a fact Ajokli is in Kellhus' head? I have been reading through the forums and there's a lot of speculation but I can't seem to find a specific line where it says Ajokli was in Kellhus' head.

Welcome back, NronFisher. Strength on the journey, journey well.

I think what you were asking is how do we know it's Ajokli who takes over Kellhus in the Golden Room, rather than where his soul is after all is said and done, right?

On that answer, as far as I recall, we only have the validity of Malowebi's POV to go on.

Great work, TOT.

As time allows, I'll make these my wiki perusals and see if I can offer anything to sharpen your entries.

General Q&A / Re: Exact number of "nameless ones"?
« on: March 03, 2018, 01:21:15 pm »
That sentence is weirdly constructed, isn't it, TOT.

Upon scrutiny, I believe, the sentence is referring thirteen nameless ones borne of the remaining seven. It doesn't seem to specify whether the babies borne or stillborn of the ten who died in childbirth were monstrosities or not.

General Earwa / Re: [TUC SPOILERS] Foreshadowing in the books.
« on: March 03, 2018, 01:14:33 pm »
Pretty sure it's "Dunyain" and, as Achamian says to Cnaiur, that word is just "Truth" in ancient Kuniuric - making that catch even more neat in my mind.

What is in question here?  The quote is correct, it says "The Dūnyain."

Two drops of ink, one for Kellhus and one for Moėnghus, which is what the two drops inspire Akka to do, write Moe's name.  So, the two drops seem to be one for each of Kellhus and Moe, following their Thousandfold Thoughts, destroying (and remaking) the world.

Lol. As per Clozee's quotes, the two drops of ink "obliterate" one word. I believe Clozee's question was whether the word "obliterated" is "Dunyain" or "Kellhus?"

The Unholy Consult / Re: [TUC Spoilers] Kelmomas, Nau-Cayuti and causality
« on: February 28, 2018, 02:15:25 pm »
Okay, then how did Serwa get identified as one of the Few as a three-year-old? Because I might be a tad confused about that. Was she actually attempting to perform sorcery at that age? Did someone think to check using the Wathi Doll or a similar method like Akka did with Kellhus?

As we've surmised elsewhere, Achamian vaguely refers to a test done by the Mandate Pederisk which identifies children Few. It very well might be the Wathi Doll test but it could be as simple as putting three objects in front of a child and asking them to pick out the "different" (Marked) one.

General Earwa / Re: [TUC SPOILERS] Foreshadowing in the books.
« on: February 28, 2018, 02:10:11 pm »
he wrote,


in the open space to the left of,


He held his quill above the ancient word for some time. Two drops of ink—tap-tap—marred the script. He watched them bleed outward, chasing a million infinitesimal veins, obliterating the word.

If it's "Dunyain", dunno. Could be about how Cnaiur kills Moenghus and Achamian is involved in the death of Koringhus.

Pretty sure it's "Dunyain" and, as Achamian says to Cnaiur, that word is just "Truth" in ancient Kuniuric - making that catch even more neat in my mind.

General Earwa / Re: [TUC Spoilers] Nascenti of Zaudunyanicon
« on: February 28, 2018, 02:02:20 pm »
Welcome to the Second Apocalype, Clozee.

We definitely haven't forgotten but as Wilshire said.

A Coronal of Silver and Gold - Howard Shore

General Misc. / Re: SA Chats
« on: February 28, 2018, 01:53:58 pm »
Sounds about right ;).

After my PKD lecture series is over next week, I'll think about pushing for these again as use of my free evening time once a week.

General Misc. / Re: InspiroBot
« on: February 28, 2018, 01:53:05 pm »
I like it, TOT.

I can dig it.

The Forum of Interesting Things / Re: The Intellectual War on Science
« on: February 28, 2018, 01:41:43 pm »
I'd have no problems with that to be honest.

Easier said than done, perhaps.

That's the thing though. Stephen Hawking is not mentally retarded, and he wasn't born in a wheelchair.

I'm sure I'm going to be further unimpressed moving forward in this thread by the way you write but could you please tone it down?

Whenever we want. You can come up with a list of diseases that severely negatively impact the lives and viability of fetuses and then let the parents decide whether they should be killed.

We already do this to some extent (given parental income) with genomic sequencing (if I have that right).

Any cut-off is arbitrary by definition. Why should abortions only be allowed in the first trimester? Why not the first trimester + 1 week?

I honestly don't have a stance on this conversation but a thought about these questions: many people find it visually disturbing and some find it socially abhorrent. A pregnant woman often is showing in that period and then has to explain to her peers (who, let's just say, can have a very wide range of responses to this topic) what happened to the baby.

This thread needs a new name.

This is fine for now, I think. Ease facilitates conversation and at this point everyone partaking knows where to find this thread - a new title would only serve to direct newcomers. Though, you're largely the "first cause" for this tangential conversation. Any ideas what to call the newly sorted thread?

in fact I think we should do a far better job controlling our population and managing our waste so as to stop the genocide of every other lifeform on the planet (as it'll lead to our own downfall, but whatever, that's perhaps another issue).

It's only the biosphere that enables our survival ;).

We decide based on prior knowledge about life quality, life potential, potential for suffering etc.
All criteria are ultimately subjective.
Parents in dialogue with doctors should decide, or vice versa, e.g. a doctor might recommend euthanasia if a child e.g. is found to have mutations leading to severe disease and early death.

I think a problem for you in advocating your position here, here or anywhere, is that the actual starting conditions aren't this conversation - you'd spend your whole life consolidating this position (which is what H and Wilshire are asking of you) and then facilitating the social conditions to enact it in the world as it is (fighting the same fight that the "pro-choice" camp has already been fighting for years) but also people would vehemently oppose you with much less grace than is shown here.

Literature / Re: Yearly Targets 2018
« on: February 28, 2018, 12:20:08 pm »
Aren't you only like a book out from each other :P?

I love instilling the sense of competition but I'm afraid I really won't be able to keep up.

Either way, still maintaining momentum for the moment: VALIS - Philip K. Dick (7) last week.

Literature / Re: 7 Surprising Books That Will Make Your Life Better
« on: February 28, 2018, 11:32:29 am »
I believe that book was mentioned either by Tim Ferriss on his own podcast or by him on The Upgrade podcast. Either way, I've heard accolades regarding that title.

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