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General Misc. / Re: The Olympics 2018
« on: February 09, 2018, 04:00:02 pm »
We streamed the opening ceremonies.

As per my quorum commentary:

Quote from: Madness
The 6yo was dead set on watching it "at 6am!" because his teacher told him to (I wish I got that kind of automatic respect). And doing my best Charlie Brown's teacher's impression while explaining to the chillens and the 11yo why this Olympics (as most) is both historic and complicated.

Russian atheletes unable to walk in under a Russian flag because Russia is banned this year (if I recall correctly) so they have to play as "Olympic Independents," SK/NK walking together because Drumpf (!!), Israel and Palestine still participating despite Drumpf's (!!) declaration regarding Jeruselum, and how none of the Olympic architecture is designed to be recycled (except in a few cool instances over the years) and is ultimately a huge waste of money for the host country.

I like watching various skiing and boarding events (was skiing on some Canadian mountains with my Dad as young as three).

Final of fifteen is up. Interesting reading.

General Misc. / Re: What are you watching?
« on: February 05, 2018, 03:15:07 pm »
I found the same issue with Bright. Netflix seems to think since they can, they should - for my part referencing the absolutely egregious use of the word "fuck" in Bright.

Philosophy & Science / Re: Images of Space/Etc/Etc
« on: February 03, 2018, 12:09:50 am »

Philosophy & Science / Re: Space Porn
« on: February 02, 2018, 01:33:14 am »

General Misc. / The Trippy, High-Speed World of Drone Racing
« on: January 31, 2018, 03:41:02 pm »

RPG Discussion / HG Wells Practically Invented Modern Tabletop Wargaming
« on: January 31, 2018, 03:03:25 pm »

Interesting read.

Intelligence Squared Debates

Just paid some attention to a recommendation by a TPB commenter, Artificial Intelligence: The Risks Could Outweigh the Rewards. My random bullet point comments as I had time while listening and doing chores are here.

General Misc. / Re: Epitaphs, for fun and profit.....
« on: January 30, 2018, 03:11:52 am »
I've been introduced to the idea of writing your own eulogy/obituary as a practice of motivation many times over.

One of the best (and most recent) versions I've heard (again) is to write your own eulogy/obituary as it would be read today and then again as you would prefer it read and then start making the intervening steps.

General Misc. / 500+ Classic SF and Horror Movies
« on: January 29, 2018, 04:41:36 pm »

Very cool, KTB.

I'll probably have more thoughts later when I'm not being perpetually distracted but:

- Places of the Heart: The Psychogeography of Everyday Life
- The Benefits of Urban Trees, The Japanese practice of ‘forest bathing’ is scientifically proven to improve your health, How Trees Calm Us Down
- In my fourth year Memory & Learning psychology class, we studied how individuals retain information. But despite the wealth of research we were expected to digest, the great irony was that no university class is taught as per the research. It was something I brought up a number of times and was ridiculed for. For instance, research shows that context-dependent memory (where you are, how you feel, etc, etc) has a large impact on retention, specifically that students perform better on tests in the same room in which they studied the material yet we wrote our mid-terms/exams in the gymnasium. Plenty of other analogous strangeness in traditional pedagogy.

Philosophy & Science / Re: What do you believe? (Redux)
« on: January 28, 2018, 05:15:32 pm »
The wealth of the Vatican doesn't give it worldly political power. Wealth is not a source of political power. Plutocracies, if they exist, are not powerful. I would consider them the equivalent of gated communities or tax-shelter nations. Powerful enough to be left alone, and that's pretty much the geopolitical status of the Vatican.

I'm not sure that's accurate.

I *feel* (and data could very easily prove me wrong) like more people punch each other out over religion than sports


alcohol is number 1

I didn't suggest religion is the "number one" reason people punch each other out.

I'm not sure anyone is purposefully trying to invalidate the "everyday spiritual experience" of faithful individuals.

Not the point. The ( complaints? critiques? ) of religion in this thread appear to denote Religion is more trouble than it's worth.


Per H, religion is following et al with corruption, abuse, etc. So singling it out is an error. The point is the experience is desired, so the failed leadership of religion(s) should not fall upon followers to pay for that. I think those of us defending religion are selling it short by saying it "only" does some good ( although should be good enough, reducing human misery is awesome, connection and fellowship is powerful ), but it's massive footprint simply cannot be fathomed what it would be like to be without it. Some of the drive to learn/be more/better can be owed to spiritual experience of "dreaming" the cosmos. "Being" with God can be an impressive driver. I suspect we would still be throwing shit at each other in caves if not for religion.

And as follow up to "really?," I'm not reading the same thread you are apparently.

I get it, there are freaks out there - but most of the Christians I've shared my life with sport an interest in many things secular.

Lol, I feel like a zoo feature or a museum exhibit.

Hey, your dad could've just watched Ancient Aliens! ;)

Nah, he'd dismiss that as garbage. Something something "the word of god(s)" or GTFO.

Quote from:  BFK
The collegial, respectful attitude that you foster here at the TSA Forum is an example of what all Christians, indeed, all people should strive for.

Quote from:  Madness
It's important to remember that the average person of any creed/ideology isn't able to have the conversation we're having right now. This might render us all heretics to the average embedded faithful.

No, its a testament to what you and Wilshire and many other have created. A place discuss an issue like Religion and someone not totally flip out.

^ Can't reiterate this enough. I've been on a number of forums but this is the first one where I could discuss my religious views and have this kind of discussion. This is not normal for the internet or maybe even real life for that matter. Truth be told, you guys have likely given my posts more courtesy than their content actually deserves.

It probably helps that you make an effort to include new members on the podcast. I suspect establishing that vocal connection fosters a bit more civility than we would otherwise have.


So.....a truly excellent museum?

And (mostly) unread primary texts (outside of the hierarchical scholarship of the Vatican itself). The Vatican "Coffers" might very well equal a contemporary Alexandria.


Was "we a tetering on the edge of a global war because Islam and the West (Christianity) don't see eye to eye" what you wanted to highlight here, tleilaxu?

Tangent to the discussion on the history of religious war, I proffer that religion is so ingrained in human history, so much of the human experience, that to say what it would be like without it is like saying what would we have been like if we didn't have the opposable thumb, prohibiting the grasp of a gun. Even if any/all religions "are wrong", it's significance saturates human reality so much so it transcends the significance of it's accuracy. So much is going on with religion on so many levels, to dismiss it as mere manipulation is to overly simplify perhaps the most powerful moving sociological force in human history with several of you yielding so much ground to it that you're "blaming" it for most of the wars.

I'm curious how you reconcile these thoughts with pre-historical (written record) shamanism/matriarchies/etc/etc/etc, Tao.

Exactly right, my friend. The fact that the religious impulse is so ingrained in humanity is the only way it makes any sense at all to blame a modern war like WWII on religion.

I don't think I necessarily agree with either MSJ or Tao but the rhetoric on the part of the Allies certainly seemed to rely on religiosity.

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