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Literature / Re: Matchy, non matchy (brent weeks)
« on: January 03, 2018, 01:29:54 pm »
I just stumbled onto this insanity accidentally. Man, that escalated quickly!

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Neuropath / Re: Countering the Argument with Thorsten
« on: January 03, 2018, 01:20:59 pm »
Tleilaxu, I am surprised by your questioning me as to why I think anything, since your deterministic stance should inform you that no one knows why one does anything. Correct?

As to the "98% sure" qualification, does it or does it not imply some form of measurement? If it does, then wouldn't you agree that it is a singularly inapt way to discuss your "feeling" of suspicion that Thorsten is lying?

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Neuropath / Re: Countering the Argument with Thorsten
« on: January 02, 2018, 09:22:58 pm »
Whose idioms are allowed, and whose arent? Are you the decider of that, BFK?
Seems to me like you're claiming some kind of expertise, falsely, which I think someone pointed out is "egregious behavior" - would you like to suggest appropriate punishment?
Must we all communicate on the grounds that you define, else risk ridicule? I certainly don't want to risk being called out as 'egregious' and 'bogus', can you help me avoid that?

But wait, "98% sure" is no more precise than 'pretty damn sure' in this context, is it? Well, unless you're prepared to describe concretely what a % of the esoteric concept of 'sure' looks like. I'd appreciate your expertise on the matter.

Also, please clarify:
"Telling of" what?
"tactic" of what?
I'm having difficultly discussing those parts because I feel I have to guess what you mean, and I wouldn't want to run afoul some kind of obvious conversational ques that might raise your ire.

When someone chooses a certain idiom as opposed to another, I think it is interesting to analyze that choice. In this case, to use a mathematical percentage to describe a level of certitude might display a desire to ground one's view in the firm terrain of science. Of course, I'm certainly (well, almost certainly...  ;) ) over-interpreting the remark, but if you actually consider the matter, why write "98% sure" when "pretty sure" fits the bill? Well, especially given the nature of the topic under discussion, perhaps there was a subconscious desire to be extra precise.

I don't find anything in my post that demonstrates any ire or that proposes that I desire to arbitrate any usage. I'm merely pointing out an interesting rhetorical device (the faux measurement of certainty) that actually is no more informative than the use of qualifiers like "somewhat and "very". God knows I've used it myself unthinkingly. "I'm about 75% sure that M--- will be late." So, yeah, just a verbal tic. But there's always deeper ways to look at things.

I appreciate TLEILAXU's reference to the necromancy of dead threads. He's a sharp and attentive reader.

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Neuropath / Re: Countering the Argument with Thorsten
« on: January 02, 2018, 07:06:35 pm »
Necromancy initiated:
I was 98% sure Thorsten was lying his ass off until I clicked the link leading to his website. In any case, it's a good lesson that despite how brilliant and eloquent some brains are, that doesn't guarantee that they will be able to see themselves as what they are.

1. "98%"? Why the bogus precision? Are you trying to "science up" your claim?

2. Brilliance and eloquence don't "guarantee" anything, but those are good qualities to bet on.
@1: No, it's just the way he e.g. said he had a background in quantum mechanics that looked like a tactic I feel I've seen before.
@2: Right. Being a physicist obviously requires a big brain, but having a big brain does not necessarily mean you will realize e.g. the illusion of volition.

Claiming expertise falsely is egregious behavior. I never considered the possibility in Thorsten's case, probably because I don't address issues like volition, self-consciousness, intentionality and the first-person perspective from a physicalist stance.

What I find telling in your brief remark was the "98% sure" qualification. Instead of using vague descriptive adjectives such as "very", "almost completely", "pretty damn", etc., you couldn't resist the false precision of "98%". There's an interesting tactic, if you think about it.

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Neuropath / Re: Countering the Argument with Thorsten
« on: January 01, 2018, 03:01:14 pm »
Necromancy initiated:
I was 98% sure Thorsten was lying his ass off until I clicked the link leading to his website. In any case, it's a good lesson that despite how brilliant and eloquent some brains are, that doesn't guarantee that they will be able to see themselves as what they are.

1. "98%"? Why the bogus precision? Are you trying to "science up" your claim?

2. Brilliance and eloquence don't "guarantee" anything, but those are good qualities to bet on.

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General Misc. / Re: NFL I - And so it begins..
« on: December 20, 2017, 02:30:20 am »
I've never played in a Fantasy Football league. What's a good number of participants in a league? It'd be interesting to form a TSA Forum FF league.

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General Misc. / Re: NFL I - And so it begins..
« on: December 19, 2017, 07:38:20 pm »
I've always rooted for the Kansas City Chiefs as well, since St. Louis was without an NFL team from 1987 to 1995 (more or less). My dad, my brothers and I used to drive up to KC once a year for a game. Great memories.....

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General Misc. / Re: NFL I - And so it begins..
« on: December 19, 2017, 03:16:31 pm »

All I really care about is someone just beating the damn Patriots though.  Hate the Patriots so much, it's so gross how teams give games away to them.  The best moment of every NFL season is the part where the Patriots are eliminated.

As a fan of the former St. Louis Rams, I second the Patriots hate. Like MSJ, I respect them as an organization and a great team with talented players, but I will never root for them. And it is always good to see them lose.

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General Earwa / Re: [TUC Spoilers] Tolkien & Eucatastrophe
« on: December 08, 2017, 09:25:27 pm »
I'm a simpleton, just pulling from something cool/fun to read - no expectations from me.
Hey, Tao, I'm just relieved that I used "denouement" correctly. Wasn't sure until I looked it up just now..... :)

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General Earwa / Re: [TUC Spoilers] Tolkien & Eucatastrophe
« on: December 08, 2017, 08:06:46 pm »
That would be my hope for the proposed TNG series.

One of the reasons for my deepening animus towards TUC is the "Our Salvation" scene, which gives us a glimpse of the eucatastrophic possibility only to snatch it away and replace it with the Grand Discatastrophe of System Resumption.
You'd have preferred Ajokli reigning supreme  :o ?

I'd prefer a denouement that wasn't a choice between two Grand Discatastrophes.

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General Earwa / Re: [TUC Spoilers] Tolkien & Eucatastrophe
« on: December 08, 2017, 07:51:11 pm »
That would be my hope for the proposed TNG series.

One of the reasons for my deepening animus towards TUC is the "Our Salvation" scene, which gives us a glimpse of the eucatastrophic possibility only to snatch it away and replace it with the Grand Discatastrophe of System Resumption.

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General Earwa / Re: [TUC Spoilers] Tolkien & Eucatastrophe
« on: December 08, 2017, 06:09:27 pm »
I had hopes that there would be an eucatastrophic moment at the end of TUC, but Bakker is philosophically the polar opposite of Tolkien, and it was a vain hope.

Perhaps the conclusion of TUC can be seen as eucatastrophic if you take the perspective of the Consult....all five of them (six, I guess, if you count Shae).

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Philosophy & Science / Re: The best books on The Neuroscience of Aesthetics
« on: December 07, 2017, 12:57:34 pm »
From the article: "It's important to understand the kinds of questions that neuroscience can address. Anybody who thinks that neuroscience will answer every question about aesthetics is mistaken."

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Writing / Re: The Lost Zorro Transcriptions
« on: December 06, 2017, 01:26:18 pm »
*  *  * FRAGMENT THE THIRD *  *  *

[NB: This fragment would appear to precede the second fragment)

....thanks, thank you! Nice crowd tonight! Just want to say again what a privilege it is to open for Prince Kellhus tonight as he continues his Imprompta Tour. <applause>. The Prince and his retinue will be along in a few minutes; right now, it's just me, Zorro, and my scribe, the....illustrious Drusas Achamian <dead silence>.....whoa, tough room! Folks, he's a great guy! Yes, a sorcerer....<hisses>, but still....look at him over there, giving me the ol' stink-eye. Please, folks, a nice round of applause for our esteemed scribe, or your humble servant Zorro here is liable to be crapping his gown right here on stage <smattering of applause>. Thank you, thank you, that just might stay the good man's wrath.

Folks, I'm happy to say that the Scylvendi won't be able to join us tonight. He's scouting, or hunting, or pissed off, or who knows what. So we won't have to deal with his scowling and spitting and generally crappy attitude tonight. <laughter>. Kellhus and the Scylvendi.....the Odd Couple! What a ridiculous pair! One guy is as smooth as silk, the other guy rougher than a dressing-down by Marshal Xinemus! How did this pair ever hook up? Strange days....and getting stranger.

[end of fragment]

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Writing / Re: The Lost Zorro Transcriptions
« on: December 05, 2017, 03:06:47 pm »
Interpolating a little bit of the Don Rickles approach in that last bit, Tao. Risky business, poking a sorcerer...

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