Huh. Sorcery, as a key component of the SMS?  Interesting.  What role might Cants of Compulsion play in achieving the SMS? This is interesting to ponder on, thank you.

I don't think that is quite on the right track.  Keep in mind Koringhus is wrong on at least one thing, that The Judging Eye is the work of sorcery.  It isn't.  It's just like Bakker told us about Wracu's fire breathing.  It is neither mundane nor sorcerous.

As such, no, sorcery isn't needed to become self-moving.  However, denying or simply being ignorant of it's existence is a real detriment to understanding The Absolute.  This is because being unaware of the Outside means you cannot be fully aware of the effect it would have on you, via (or perhaps as) The Darkness.  The Dunyain were wrong in thinking that the Logos encompasses all.  It doesn't, the Outside leaks in both through souls and through topoi and who knows where else.

It seems like there has to be something extraordinary about her parentage here, how she was conceived despite the contraceptive. Her lighter skin also seems significant, heavily suggesting that her father is Norsirai. Maybe an exiled Dunyain or a Mangeacca agent?

A good point.  Thing is, while it seems miraculous, we don't know the level of effectiveness that a whore's-shell provides.  Even so, I can't imagine The Consult sent an agent to Esmenet, because when Aurang come to her the first time, he remarks that this is the "beggining of their relationship."  I also doubt that there was another Dunyain on the loose that we never knew of.

My idea is that while her father is essentially no one, perhaps the fact that Fate allowed her to be born despite the contraceptive is what is key?

You know come to think of it: do we have even a remote understanding of why the Consult not only knows about Mimara, but commanded that she be protected? (which resulted in her being saved multiple times by not-Soma)  We know what is told to the skin-spy about "even the false prophecies must be protected" but I don't buy that that's an honest answer from the Synthese; the Consult clearly knows something.

That's a question that has been bandied around for a long time.  Where does the Consult get it's prophecies from?  The answer is that we really have no idea.  The closest we ever get to one is the quote from WLW, Chapter 12's opening:

Skies are upended, poured as milk into the tar of night. Cities become pits for fire. The last of the wicked stand with the last of the righteous, lamenting the same woe. One Hundred and Forty-Four Thousand, they shall be called, for this is their tally, the very number of doom.
—Anonymous, The Third Revelation of Ganus the Blind

But my guess is this is second hand.  That is, this is news of the prophecy, a portend given on the eve of the First Apocalypse, not what surned on the Inchoroi in the first place.

New to the forum but too big a fan of the series not to partake.

I thought I was clever at 3am coming up with the username 'Ogo' ('the logos is without beginning or end') but in the harsh light of day I feel slightly less so!

It's fine, the notion of a clever username is highly overrated.  Novelty is the name of the game.  I like it, it is ambiguous but contains purpose not readily apparent.

Welcome to the forum.

Yeah, blind is certainly not the right term for Her sight of Kellhus.  Blind to his intentions, yes, but not blind to his physical being.  He is far too in view of those in Her view to be literally invisible to Her.  The important part is that She cannot account for him.

Well, Achamian, who has proven to always know more regarding any given subject than the reader, reflecting on things only when they become narrative context, suggested early in WLW that he only knew of rumours, innuendo, myth, legend, regarding the "Judging Eye." Apologies for not posting with the books at hand.

I still feel pretty sure that the No-God is related to Shae's experiments in soul-trapping.  I don't think it has anything to do with the Judging Eye.  Sure, Akka knew of tJE, but he had no clue of it's relation to the Cubit.  Shae probably knows of tJE too, but again, has no inkling of it's real nature.  So far only Koringhus seems to have divined that information.

Quote from: H on July 29, 2016, 12:14:29 pm

Finally got a little time to get the eBook and bring it over into Calibre, then merge it with all the other books.

Full series search engaged, just in time for the First Cast.

So H, is Calibre an App? How does this work? This is something I would love to do, yet I am a complete computer illiterate.

Yeah, it can be an App, but I think you have to pay for it there.  I used it on my PC and it's free there.

Message me and I'll get back to you on how you can do it, it's not hard, but tricky.

I think you're right about the Earwa and its sorcery being important, I just can't guess how. There are also the Chorae embedded in the Carapace, which must factor in somehow, as well as the Inchoroi unable to achieve "summoning, resurrecting, harnessing, birthing, whatever" the No-God without the later addition of Mekeritrig and Shauriatas to the Consult.

Oh, to me, there is little doubt that the No-God is near entirely Shae's idea.  His experiments in soul-trapping, his way of avoid death and damnation, all speak, to me at least, of what he must have put together of the both the Tekne and the arcane arts to arrive at the No-God.

There is no mention of them having done such a thing elsewhere.  If they had, that would have been the first thing to do on Earwa.  It wasn't though.  Scott also, in aswering my question on the Womb-Plauge, alluded that the chance discovery of causing death to the Nonmen women was part of what was put fully in place only with the advent of the No-God.

Shae is clever and no doubt put it all together where A&A (and company) had never had.  I'm still betting on the No-God being some kind of soul that holds souls, or something recursive like that.  Even though I stand fully behind my self-proclaimed user title.

Nope. And if I recall correctly from our Skype conversations H and Blackstone were both particularly miffed that Achamian doesn't make a bigger deal in reacting to his dreams in TGO.

Lol. Qirri. It's a hell of a drug.

Oh, indeed I was, the dream here is so profound, it is absurd, yet Akka fails to even reminisce on it after.

I don't particularly like the idea that Kellhus sent the Prophecy back to Celmomas, but I don't see any other possibility.  If that is true, then Kellhus is the author of his own Fate, which really makes no sense.