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Literature / Re: Yearly Targets 2018
« on: June 26, 2018, 03:13:48 am »
Havent updated in awhile, but I've read a few here and there.

Started and just finished the RiftWar Saga.

(10) Magician, by Raymond E. Feist
(11) Silverthorn
(12) Darkness at Stenathon

I enjoyed it, but nothing outside the normal realm of fantasy.

(13) Winter Halo, by Keri Wither
So, so. Wife had it laying around and gave it a go. Meh.

Literature / Re: YOU MUST TELL ME ... What else are you reading?
« on: June 25, 2018, 10:15:37 pm »
Quote from:  Wilshire
The first three books, for me, where probably the best when considered together.

There were other great books in the series, but those three stick out. The rest of the series becomes very meandering and a lot of story lines don't feel like they go anywhere. GOTM, DG, and MOI have tighert story arcs and there isn't quite so much going on, which to me makes it easier to focus on what's important.

Last few scenes in DG with the chain of dogs & Coltain... Amazing

Agreed, especially on the bold. MoI was one of my favorite, also. Then as ive said countless times, Toll the Hounds is jam packed with good stuff, so you have that to look forward to.

General Earwa / Re: Mimara's abilities and status as a prophet
« on: June 13, 2018, 07:45:23 pm »
@H, but from the quote from my previous post about Koringhus thinking, "Why does she weep? The Eye knows no sorrow.". Koringhus is thinking this and Mimara responds, "But I do."

That tells me that through the Eye she hears/sees, whatever you want to say, whatever Koringhus thinks. Those were his thoughts, and she answers him. I'd say thats more proof that she sees and hears everything through the Eye, whomever its Gaze is aimed at.

ETA; to add to your thoughts H, ive reread that chapter and those scenes in particular at least 10 times in the past few weeks. I think its clear she knows all that the Eye sees. I also am not sure that ita Mimara that is rendering redemption, after all, it says the Eye approves. And, that's not the dialogue I take away, that Koringhus sees what the Eye reflects back to him, not at all. I can see that is the case for Mimara, she sees and hears what the shows/reflects to her. But, all of that is clearly of Koringhus's narrative and him thinking on the stones, saving the boy, emulating the Sranc, etc, etc.

General Earwa / Re: Mimara's abilities and status as a prophet
« on: June 13, 2018, 11:45:06 am »
Quote from:  H
I'm a bit behind on the reread.  I'm still formulating my thoughts, but I think there is far more biblical content in the whole series than we had previously thought.  I'm not really sure what the full implications for Mimara are though.

Not the reread....the last two pages of this thread or more. What happened with Koringhus and the Eye. How Mimara can hear his thoughts, at least thats how I interpret it with the quotes. And, alot more we've (me, SmilerLoki & ToT) been discussing about that chapter.

General Earwa / Re: Mimara's abilities and status as a prophet
« on: June 12, 2018, 09:33:52 pm »
@H, ive been waiting on post from you on this had alot of good ideas when we dis the ARC read. Has any of your views changed after rereading?

General Misc. / Re: A celebration for the clever
« on: June 12, 2018, 09:13:54 pm »
Just wanna say I like the thread, and ill share how ive been vulnerable to my own biases, yet I (hopefully I am, but I indeed try to admit when I'm wrong and proof is put in my face) usually keep an open mind in any subject. I love this community because when people do disagree, its civil. I really enjoy that. And, I have had many views changed by just reading posts here. And, please feel free to call me out when I am not. I can fully admit to being wrong. I love that quote from above, first time ive heard it. Good words to live by.

General Earwa / Re: Mimara's abilities and status as a prophet
« on: June 11, 2018, 01:49:05 am »
Well, there is. There's the whole section about ignorance and that's what made him save the Boy, he likens it to worldborn love. A section about the shreikers and how he kept the boy safe. He goes over all of it while she is watching with the Eye.

General Earwa / Re: Mimara's abilities and status as a prophet
« on: June 11, 2018, 01:34:49 am »
A quick reread says you're right. He doesn't voice anything about the 100 stones out loud. Though....whatever he thinks the Eye can observe? It seems as if he's speaking to the Eye/Mimara with his thoughts. Its very confusing to say the least. If you go back in the chapter you see that Mimara answers his thoughts aloud...

A fraction kneels before her, Anasūrimbor Mimara. And a fraction, one of a hundred stones, could see it … as if it were rising up, like lead pouring into the husk and tatter of a mortal frame, an immobility as profound as oblivion.
Sranc squealing in the black, the air rancid with sweat and exhalation, cleavers whooshing, felling brothers for lunatic fear. Feet slapping stone.
Zero … Opening as an Eye.

There is the Eye opening, here is her answering his thoughts...

So many cuts.
Zero, trembling with feminine mortality.
Too many.
“You are broken,” she sobs. “The same as me …”
A fraction reaches out, makes a pommel of the slender hand about the pommel of the knife. Judge, a fraction murmurs. End our ingrown war …
But she is weeping—openly now. Why does she weep?
The Gaze knows no sorrow.
“But I do,” she whispers.
Cuts and cuts and cuts …

You need to reread and decide for yourself is all I can say. Its the only logical conclusion I can come to. I could be wrong, not the 1st

General Earwa / Re: Mimara's abilities and status as a prophet
« on: June 11, 2018, 01:01:50 am »
This, and also the fact that she knew about Koringhus's one hundred stones without having any way of knowing about them.

I didn't quote the poster because I'm not sure if it was SL ot ToT...

Koringhus confesses all of this to all of them while the eye is open. Then directly runs off a cliff after the JE approves. Its a difficult scene to interpret, and I could be interpreting it wrongly, I dont think so though. Because, right after the 100 stones, we get this quote.

“Killing,” a fraction explains to the wondering boy. “Killing connects me to what I am.”
And what are you?
“The Survivor,” another fraction replies, and yet another registers the network of scar tissue across his face, the tug and tension of unnatural compromises.
“The Heaper of the Dead.”

Koringhus is confessing most of this out loud in front of not only the JE and Mimara, but also the boy and Akka. Its why I got a kick out of it(shitty sense of humor. I know.), because how much Akka and the Boy are taken aback by the statement. Its known because Koringhus confesses to all...

Quote from:  ThoughtsofThelli
So, the first point I wanted to bring up here for speculation is: how did Kellhus actually choose these concubines?

Imho, id say he chose them based off of intellect. That's why he chose Esme, so we're told.

General Earwa / Re: [TUC Spoiler] Esmenet and the JE
« on: June 06, 2018, 06:28:00 am »
Quote from: TLEILAXU
Beautiful chapter really. Loss is holy.


General Earwa / Re: [TUC Spoiler] Esmenet and the JE
« on: June 05, 2018, 11:13:53 pm »
Not even just the Amiolas, all of them, apparently! Which is intriguing, to say the least.

I don't remember the quote, thank you. Interesting.

General Earwa / Re: [TUC Spoiler] Esmenet and the JE
« on: June 05, 2018, 09:04:20 pm »
Quote from:  ThoughtsofThelli
I had completely forgotten that the JE had "approved" of Koringhus' realization. Then we do have proof that X person seen with it can appear different over time, change from regular damnation to "Ciphrang-level", from damned to saved, etc.
It's very tragic and yet heartwarming, Koringhus sees he has now been redeemed from the "Dūnyain original sin" and chooses to end his life right there, before he slips back into the damnation of his ancestors. He really is such a great character, even if he's just around for a couple of chapters.

Did you reread the chapter? There are some really great quotes in that chapter, can't wait 2 years til we get there!! You got the "99 stones and the type of birds he killed", which I think an allegory for the series in some way. And, "The Heaper of the Dead", which really got a shock from everyone. Overall, just jammed packed of good nuggets, like, I thought, everything in TGO.

General Earwa / Re: [TUC Spoiler] Esmenet and the JE
« on: June 05, 2018, 08:46:20 pm »
Quote from:  ThoughtsofThelli
I thought Serwė was the one referred to as "the World", was Esmenet ever called this? I honestly can't remember...

I thought something to that effect, or close enough, at the beginning of TUC...

The No-God / Re: The Heart
« on: June 05, 2018, 03:18:24 pm »
I love this MG. Its a great idea that accounts for Akka's dreams. Someone else had another theory on the dreams that Kellhus would take over the heart, I like that too.

As for this theory, I do have a little concern how Ses came upon the heart, as others have expressed. But, besides that its a great theory and would make for some interesting dreams for Akka, going forward.

I think Emidilis is around in some artifact.....somewhere. With as many sorcerous artifacts in his name, you'd think he made a loop/prison for his soul also. Good stuff!

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