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Philosophy & Science / Re: The Vulnerable World Hypothesis
« Last post by Wilshire on Today at 02:14:50 pm »
The shittiness of ecological destruction is already apparent, even if we survive it and medical advances outpace the damage to our health from this, it sucks we're losing so many of our big mammals.

The hope is that we only need a small fraction of the existing species to survive. Some bugs to pollinate, some herd animals to eat, some plants to eat too. Mass extinction, while extremely unfortunate imo, wouldn't stop us from living on.
That said, we still get medical advancements in particular from studying animals and plants. Everything we kill off before we extract ever bit of useful information from it is a potential loss to scientific advancement.

As Sci said, a thousand cuts.
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Philosophy & Science / Re: The Vulnerable World Hypothesis
« Last post by TaoHorror on Today at 01:45:51 pm »
The shittiness of ecological destruction is already apparent, even if we survive it and medical advances outpace the damage to our health from this, it sucks we're losing so many of our big mammals.
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Philosophy & Science / Re: The Vulnerable World Hypothesis
« Last post by Wilshire on Today at 12:27:58 pm »
I suspect we're more likely to diminish as a species from a thousand cuts, so to speak, than Black Ball tech.
Yeah. Things like global warming, poisoning and over-fishing oceans, strip mining and fracking destroying rivers, forests, over farming, peak oil, etc. At some point we'll soak up most of the resources that are easily available. Not saying that'll lead to extinction, but lots and lots of people will die for completely avoidable reasons due to poor planning. We might cross over a point of no return as well, which will lead us backwards to subsistence living that we may never be able to crawl back out of.

Or simply a meteor. Plenty of terribly likely things to remove humanity from existence/prominence that we really don't need to invent science fiction alternatives.
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Literature / Re: Fantasy recs for children, ages 8-12
« Last post by Wilshire on November 20, 2018, 08:37:53 pm »
Sorry for spoiling the end there then lol. I mean its written as YA fiction so its not as if you'd miss it, but it is a spoiler and I do apologize.
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Literature / Re: Fantasy recs for children, ages 8-12
« Last post by MSJ on November 20, 2018, 08:21:24 pm »
His Dark Materials is what caught my eye. Very intuitive, Wilshire!
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Philosophy & Science / Re: The Vulnerable World Hypothesis
« Last post by sciborg2 on November 20, 2018, 08:11:22 pm »
Something about being a god makes one violent I think. I've never heard of someone playing simcity and not delighting in the destruction of their people.

I do wonder if there's something about having certain worldviews that makes one more inclined toward particular arenas of interest.

For example Bostrom clearly seems to be worried about things like Rogue Super AIs (though thankfully not Basilisks AFAIK and now some kind of easy-bake-oven type WMD. He might be correct, such advances may eventually come to pass, but it's somewhat telling he doesn't seem to be able to make a clear cut example of what that might be without venturing into pure speculation.

I suspect we're more likely to diminish as a species from a thousand cuts, so to speak, than Black Ball tech.
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Literature / Re: Fantasy recs for children, ages 8-12
« Last post by Wilshire on November 20, 2018, 01:17:58 pm »
Most of them are at least quasi entertaining as an adult. The best on there is probably His Dark Materials, and a lot of people loath Eragon, but I enjoyed it - the last book was published when I was in college and I read and enjoyed it for what it is.
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Philosophy & Science / Re: The Vulnerable World Hypothesis
« Last post by Wilshire on November 20, 2018, 12:48:32 pm »
Heh it's Bostrom so I'd take it with a grain of salt. If you thought you lived in a simulation like Sim City you might also believe someone can just press the disaster button and unleash tornadoes [or plagues in this case] for a lark...or maybe only I did that all the time in that game...
Something about being a god makes one violent I think. I've never heard of someone playing simcity and not delighting in the destruction of their people.
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Philosophy & Science / Re: The Vulnerable World Hypothesis
« Last post by sciborg2 on November 19, 2018, 09:11:59 pm »
Heh it's Bostrom so I'd take it with a grain of salt. If you thought you lived in a simulation like Sim City you might also believe someone can just press the disaster button and unleash tornadoes [or plagues in this case] for a lark...or maybe only I did that all the time in that game...
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Literature / Re: Fantasy recs for children, ages 8-12
« Last post by MSJ on November 19, 2018, 09:01:03 pm »
Thanks, Wilshire! :)

I dont see her becoming bored anytime soon. There is a few in there that sound like I would enjoy them too.
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