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Mostly hoping for MUTILATED POVs

So am I (just want to think on this for a bit more before casting my own votes).

That would fall under "other" because I only made individual options for characters who had already had POVs, but I think you got that. ;)
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The Unholy Consult / Re: Influences on TSA
« Last post by TLEILAXU on May 22, 2018, 07:21:05 pm »
Nice little tidbit there!

It's amazing, what you can find when looking through the glossaries for content to add to the wiki pages! ;)

This is also great because it's like a double (or nested) parallel - Kellhus and KelSammi are parallels to Angeshraėl and Oresh who are themselves parallels to Abraham and Isaac.
In a sense, God really did stay Kellhus' hand, a God of Nothing...
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The Unholy Consult / Re: Influences on TSA
« Last post by ThoughtsOfThelli on May 22, 2018, 07:18:25 pm »
Nice little tidbit there!

It's amazing, what you can find when looking through the glossaries for content to add to the wiki pages! ;)

This is also great because it's like a double (or nested) parallel - Kellhus and KelSammi are parallels to Angeshraėl and Oresh who are themselves parallels to Abraham and Isaac.
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The No-God / Re: Which POV(s) are you looking forward to the most during TNG?
« Last post by TLEILAXU on May 22, 2018, 07:16:47 pm »
Mostly hoping for MUTILATED POVs
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The Unholy Consult / Re: Influences on TSA
« Last post by TLEILAXU on May 22, 2018, 07:15:40 pm »
Nice little tidbit there!
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I though this would be a good idea, it occurred to me after creating the death predictions thread.
I'm still counting Malowebi as a possible returning POV because he still retained awareness after Kellhus died, meaning he could very well live on as a severed head.
I'm also assuming KelSammi (what I started calling the Kelmomas-with-Samarmas'-soul entity) will no longer be a POV as the No-God.
Also not counting the Omniscient POV because I want this poll to be character-based (and I assume no one would pick that one anyway).
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The No-God / Re: Deaths in TNG
« Last post by ThoughtsOfThelli on May 22, 2018, 06:56:20 pm »
Bit of a drive-by post here, but I actually could see Achamian living all the way through the series and being one of the 144,000 thousand remaining souls on Earwa at the end...

Everyone else is probably toast though.

I 2nd this idea and find it likely, though I think Esme makes it too.

I think Esme will probably die, but I'm pretty certain Akka is going to make it. I think he's getting set up to be the next Seswatha, and Ses was a survivor of the first apocalypse. Akka's going to keep the gnosis alive and refound the mandate!

Okay, so I'm definitely in the minority so far, with only Old Gnostic Fool agreeing with my Akka death prediction.

And for Esmenet, it seems like MSJ is in the minority, since everyone else so far seems to agree she will die.

About the Akka and Seswatha parallels, this is my opinion: I think that the parallels already exist (and presumably will only get stronger as TNG goes on) and have been there since PON.
Both:
-are/were sorcerers who came from humble origins (Seswatha the son of a Trysean bronzesmith/Akka the son of a Nroni fisherman);
-became close to an Anasūrimbor who eventually became a ruler (Celmomas, High-King of Kūniüri/Kellhus, Aspect-Emperor of the Three Seas), but the two later had a falling out (Celmomas resented Seswatha's influence on his son Nau-Cayūti and suspected he might even be Seswatha's biological son/Akka renounced Kellhus because of him "stealing" his wife Esmenet from him and due to learning the truth about the Dūnyain);
-had a romantic and sexual relationship with said Anasūrimbor's wife (Celmomas' wife Suriala/Kellhus' wife Esmenet - though in this case the relationship with Akka happened before the relationship with Kellhus);
-had a student and surrogate son who met a tragic end due to the influence of the Consult (Nau-Cayūti/Inrau - and you can count Proyas as well in Akka's case, though more indirectly);
-interacted with a sorcerous artifact with led to them experiencing events in the life/memories of someone else (the Amiolas/Seswatha's Heart).
And that's just off the top of my head, there might be more I'm not remembering right now.
I can, however, actually see Akka dying right after managing to end the Second Apocalypse but surviving long enough to pass on the torch and the task of founding a new Mandate to someone else (Serwa?).
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The Unholy Consult / Re: Influences on TSA
« Last post by ThoughtsOfThelli on May 22, 2018, 06:38:22 pm »
I have a hunch, which I can't actually articulate in a fully fleshed out sense at the moment, that there is a relationship between the biblical figure of Abraham and Kellhus.  What spurred me if the ending of TUC and how it could be contrued that Kellhus is in an "Abrahamic position" in having to sacrifice (kill) little Kel, as Abraham was in sacrificing Isaac.  Thing is, Abraham is willing, where Kellhus, for whatever reasons, is not.

This is an intriguing idea considering this bit from the TUC glossary (underlined the relevant part):
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Mount Kinsureah--The legendary "Mountain of Summoning" where, according to The Chronicle of the Tusk, the Prophet Angeshraėl sacrificed Oresh, the youngest of his sons by Esmenet, to demonstrate his conviction to the Tribes of Men. The so-called Oreshalat (Issue-of-Oresh) constitutes one of the most important crossroads of theology, or religious speculation, with philosophy, rational or sorcerous speculation. Of particular interest is the strand called the Imboreshalat (Issue-of-Oresh-if), which asks what follows from Angeshraėl's resolution by exploring what follows from a possible failure of resolve, where Angeshraėl tells his tribe that the Gods staid his hand.
Very interesting addition (when compared to the TTT glossary, which lacked the last 2 sentences of this entry), considering that Angeshraėl and Oresh are the in-universe Abraham and Isaac analogues...
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The No-God / Re: TNG- Your expectations and wants
« Last post by TLEILAXU on May 22, 2018, 05:30:21 pm »
But how does Mimara become a Christ figure when the God is blinded? I interpret the scene where she lets go of her chorae as her abandoning her destiny as a prophetess. I still think she's going to be important, but she's no longer "backed" by divine grace.
Two different ways could mean two different ways humans cope with existence in a meaningless world. We have baseline humans and then we have the meaningfully-truncated Dūnyain.

Well, one thing is that Mimara is not a 1:1 map of Christ, for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that Mimara's ability, that is The Judging Eye itself, is not divine, per se, but is actually proto-divine, if I understand it correctly.  That is, if we can believe what Koringhus tells us (very debatable) the source of the Eye (and so of Judgement) is the Cubit, to which god, the gods, or even The God of Gods is still subject.
The way I see it, the world is more like a bicameral mind where the God/the Gods are the "speaking" part. God is not apart from the Cubit, but IS the Cubit (imagine objective morals built into the very fabric of the cosmos), at least one aspect of it, orthogonal to the real (always loved the sound of this phrase).

If any of that word salad makes sense, I'm not sure...
I believe the answer is a resounding no  ;)

edit: I also had some responses to MSJ and TaoHorror but I guess I overwrote them by mistake... Just to be clear that I'm not completely ignoring you guys!
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The Unholy Consult / Re: Influences on TSA
« Last post by H on May 22, 2018, 02:05:44 pm »
I have a hunch, which I can't actually articulate in a fully fleshed out sense at the moment, that there is a relationship between the biblical figure of Abraham and Kellhus.  What spurred me if the ending of TUC and how it could be contrued that Kellhus is in an "Abrahamic position" in having to sacrifice (kill) little Kel, as Abraham was in sacrificing Isaac.  Thing is, Abraham is willing, where Kellhus, for whatever reasons, is not.
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