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RPG Discussion / Re: Sufficiently Advanced Diceless RPG
« Last post by sciborg2 on January 12, 2019, 08:27:11 pm »
The Wikidot

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Review on RPG.Net

Actually I think that's a review for the first edition, mechanics have changed so I'd ignore that part given you can get the PDF of 2nd for free and pay if you end up enjoying the game.
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RPG Discussion / Sufficiently Advanced Diceless RPG
« Last post by sciborg2 on January 12, 2019, 09:43:15 am »
PWYW at Drivethru RPG, I'd say check it out and if you like it show the creator some love via your wallet.

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Sufficiently Advanced is a transhuman roleplaying game of the far future.

Humanity has been reconstructed by time and technology. Wield incredible technological enhancements and thousands of years of expertise, or the ability to mold the story of the game. Play a digital intelligence with remote-controlled robot drones, a diplomatic team that shares a group-mind, a soldier infused with nanotechnology, or even a living starship. Play an Old-Worlder witnessing our fantastic universe for the first time, or a Masquerader taking on different identities each day.

This second edition runs on an entirely new diceless system. What consequences you are willing to accept in order to win? Or, when you are outmatched, can your failure help your team succeed? Use Plots and Projects to change the world, and force Complications on your characters now to warp the plot in their favor later on.

Discover five different futures: To The Stars, where you form a first-contact team reconnecting with the lost seeds of humanity. The Divide, full of espionage and intrigue, where trust is hard to find and the sides are ever shifting. The Powder Keg, a universe tumbling into a war that may mean the end of everything. Sublight, where secret societies champion their causes by transmitting their operatives across the stars. The Patent Office, where your team of Inspectors seeks to protect humanity from its own worst excesses.

The future is bright, but not without danger. Come explore it with us.

Also get the Chronotech supplement.

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Everyone wants to know the future. Now everyone can.

Build characters with Chronotech, a new Capability that brings information from the future. Use autoredactors to change sensitive information before your opponents steal it. Loop through time to line up the perfect shot or make the perfect argument. Use historical information from the future to uncover secret organizations today.

Chronotech has new material for GMs too: new civilizations and societies based around issues of time travel and foreknowledge. Learn how the universe's existing civilizations will react to the ultimate disruptive technology, and get advice on how to handle the tricky subject of time travel in your game.

Chronotech is a supplement for Sufficiently Advanced. It is focused on the second edition, but contains backwards-compatible rules for the first edition as well.
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Therapy wars: The Revenge of Freud

This was hilarious from this link you shared:

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No brain scan has ever located the ego, super-ego or id

No shit, LOL!

Heh, it does seem a bit unfair to say that about Freud's terms when there is much about the mind that hasn't (yet?) been located in the brain...
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Therapy wars: The Revenge of Freud

This was hilarious from this link you shared:

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No brain scan has ever located the ego, super-ego or id

No shit, LOL!
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General Misc. / Re: Quotes
« Last post by sciborg2 on January 12, 2019, 02:32:48 am »
'[At] the moment biology becomes biologism, science is turned into an ideology. What we have to deplore ... is not so much that scientists are specializing, but rather the fact that specialists are generalizing.'
 Ė Viktor E. Frankl

'How can the brain be in the head if the head is in the brain?' Ė
 -- J. R. Smythies

This post made you evil, Sci ( check out your post count before you post again  ;) )

Damn missed my chance to commune with the numerology of the Dark Lord...I'm sure there'll be other chances -->


"The descent to Hell is the same from every place." -Anaxagoras
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EDIT: I finally get what you're saying - those who only focus on behavior without at least dipping your toe in the brain/mind is too shallow an exercise to be any good? Hmm - I think you can be a damn good mechanic without knowing engineering. I mean, we haven't figured it out yet, so you're saying don't even try understanding behavior until we do?

I think trying to classify human behavior only using observable behavior is going to make for poor predictive/explanatory power.

But human behavior organized by cognitive states does work - which is what I think we are in agreement on? I was referring to the historical attempt of behaviorism to make psychology a science of laws and equations.
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I think we're talking about different things? I am referring specifically to the idea we can explain human behavior without any recourse to cognitive/intentional states. Admittedly this might be my ignorance at play.

We may not be, I thought we were.

Though if you are talking about CBT it might not be as effective as you think? ->

I donít know how effective it has been historically/globally, but honestly with how endemically error-prone psychology is, Iím falling off my chair that it could work at all. It's almost as if Psychology is the anti-physics science with no two outcomes can possibly be the same. CBT has had at least some success with a good deal of it's "failure" likely related to how compliant the patient is. I'm discounting incompetence, a thing that plagues all. For those who are competent treating compliant patients, it works at least enough it cannot be ignored. Here I think we have Free Will and then I see CBT in action which to my thinking thwarts my assertion.

EDIT: I finally get what you're saying - those who only focus on behavior without at least dipping your toe in the brain/mind is too shallow an exercise to be any good? Hmm - I think you can be a damn good mechanic without knowing engineering. I mean, we haven't figured it out yet, so you're saying don't even try understanding behavior until we do?
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Behaviorism - at least as I've had it explained - is the denial, or at least ignoring, of internal states.

But behavioral psychologists have been the most successful branch of psychology. Itís impressive how effective putting the cart before the horse is. Overly simplistic, but if youíre a bad person suffering from the consequences of being bad, but you canít see your way through to being a good person, if you start behaving good, you eventually come around and get it and genuinely transform Ė faster than you would think, could be as fast as a year or two. Behavioral psychologists donít overtly deny the value of discovering whatís behind the curtain, itís almost purely a practical application to improve peopleís psychology/lives. There may be a few stating the internals donít matter or donít bother as itís unknowable, but thatís not the meat of what theyíre trying to accomplish. Root cause is out of scope of what theyíre studying and doing, itís not denouncement.

H! Get in here and help me out.

I think we're talking about different things? I am referring specifically to the idea we can explain human behavior without any recourse to cognitive/intentional states. Admittedly this might be my ignorance at play.

Though if you are talking about CBT it might not be as effective as you think? ->

Therapy wars: The Revenge of Freud
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General Misc. / Re: Quotes
« Last post by TaoHorror on January 12, 2019, 01:21:30 am »
'[At] the moment biology becomes biologism, science is turned into an ideology. What we have to deplore ... is not so much that scientists are specializing, but rather the fact that specialists are generalizing.'
 Ė Viktor E. Frankl

'How can the brain be in the head if the head is in the brain?' Ė
 -- J. R. Smythies

This post made you evil, Sci ( check out your post count before you post again  ;) )
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Behaviorism - at least as I've had it explained - is the denial, or at least ignoring, of internal states.

But behavioral psychologists have been the most successful branch of psychology. Itís impressive how effective putting the cart before the horse is. Overly simplistic, but if youíre a bad person suffering from the consequences of being bad, but you canít see your way through to being a good person, if you start behaving good, you eventually come around and get it and genuinely transform Ė faster than you would think, could be as fast as a year or two. Behavioral psychologists donít overtly deny the value of discovering whatís behind the curtain, itís almost purely a practical application to improve peopleís psychology/lives. There may be a few stating the internals donít matter or donít bother as itís unknowable, but thatís not the meat of what theyíre trying to accomplish. Root cause is out of scope of what theyíre studying and doing, itís not denouncement.

H! Get in here and help me out.
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