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General Misc. / Re: Quotes
« Last post by sciborg2 on April 09, 2019, 11:22:18 pm »
“Look at the wall. Form a clear representation of it in your mind.

Now, look at yourself, represent to yourself internally yourself looking at the wall.

Who is now doing the looking?”
 -Fitche
Do you mean Fichte?

Fuck...yeah.
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General Misc. / Re: Quotes
« Last post by BeardFisher-King on April 09, 2019, 11:16:42 pm »
“Look at the wall. Form a clear representation of it in your mind.

Now, look at yourself, represent to yourself internally yourself looking at the wall.

Who is now doing the looking?”
 -Fitche
Do you mean Fichte?
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Philosophy & Science / Re: The ancient philosophers and "anagogic power"?
« Last post by sciborg2 on April 09, 2019, 09:40:05 pm »
I mean Laplace's Demon is basically the Thousandfold Thought with a little more data. Neither work in Earwa  in an absolute sense ;)

I'm not so sure about that. There was a running theory that all the rational explanations Kellhus had for why the Dunyain could read faces and the like were actually rationalizations for what was a "numinous" power.

The thing is, of course, that we can't know.  I do rate it more plausible that such was "mundane" but there is no way to prove it one way or the other, or even determine if one is or is not more plausible.

I kinda suspect we can make an educated guess based on the text, in the same way that (IMO anyway) the correct metaphysics for the Bakkerverse is Monadic Idealism of some variety (at least as a description for the Inside).

Maybe my memory is off but weren't there a few conclusions of the TTT that seemed beyond algorithmic? Going back to the OP perhaps the Dunyain unwittingly did managed to move higher up the "Golden Chain" - and thus increase their "Psi" power - but their entire project was a dead [end] in terms of reaching the Absolute.
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Philosophy & Science / Re: The ancient philosophers and "anagogic power"?
« Last post by H on April 09, 2019, 09:22:46 pm »
I mean Laplace's Demon is basically the Thousandfold Thought with a little more data. Neither work in Earwa  in an absolute sense ;)

I'm not so sure about that. There was a running theory that all the rational explanations Kellhus had for why the Dunyain could read faces and the like were actually rationalizations for what was a "numinous" power.

The thing is, of course, that we can't know.  I do rate it more plausible that such was "mundane" but there is no way to prove it one way or the other, or even determine if one is or is not more plausible.
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General Misc. / Re: Quotes
« Last post by sciborg2 on April 09, 2019, 08:56:00 pm »
“Look at the wall. Form a clear representation of it in your mind.

Now, look at yourself, represent to yourself internally yourself looking at the wall.

Who is now doing the looking?”
 -Fitche

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Philosophy & Science / Re: The ancient philosophers and "anagogic power"?
« Last post by sciborg2 on April 09, 2019, 08:42:56 pm »
I mean Laplace's Demon is basically the Thousandfold Thought with a little more data. Neither work in Earwa  in an absolute sense ;)

I'm not so sure about that. There was a running theory that all the rational explanations Kellhus had for why the Dunyain could read faces and the like were actually rationalizations for what was a "numinous" power.
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Philosophy & Science / Re: The ancient philosophers and "anagogic power"?
« Last post by Wilshire on April 09, 2019, 07:32:40 pm »
I mean Laplace's Demon is basically the Thousandfold Thought with a little more data. Neither work in Earwa  in an absolute sense ;)
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Philosophy & Science / Re: The ancient philosophers and "anagogic power"?
« Last post by sciborg2 on April 09, 2019, 07:25:52 pm »
So Kellhus could only  summon Laplace's Demon?

Well, if he could have, he probably would have, so...

(I actually don't think Laplace's Demon would know all that much in Earwa anyway, because the Outside is likely not corpuscular.)

Also what comes After determines what comes Before. Final Causation even beyond Aquinas boi!
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Philosophy & Science / Re: The ancient philosophers and "anagogic power"?
« Last post by H on April 09, 2019, 03:58:21 pm »
So Kellhus could only  summon Laplace's Demon?

Well, if he could have, he probably would have, so...

(I actually don't think Laplace's Demon would know all that much in Earwa anyway, because the Outside is likely not corpuscular.)
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