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« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2014, 03:09:57 pm »
Its less about importance and more about ease of access. My two options remain as they are.


Guess we'll just have to wait for someone else to weigh in.

My internal logic preferences aside, I think Wilshire's order for the Earwa category is more user-friendly, but I admit some difficulty in committing.  How's that for a non-opinion?  I can argue myself, from both sides, into respective corners.  I should just delete this...
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« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2014, 03:15:47 pm »
I would also not be upset with either option, but then again I don't really participate in many of those threads. Each side needs a champion I guess. I imagine that if no one really cares then I'll force Madness to decide :P, but we'll give it plenty of time before we do so.
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« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2014, 08:17:28 pm »
I would like a General Discussion board

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« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2014, 11:54:31 am »
Its less about importance and more about ease of access. My two options remain as they are.


Guess we'll just have to wait for someone else to weigh in.

I think Wilshire's order for the Earwa category is more user-friendly, but I admit some difficulty in committing.

Can either of you explain this to me? I am the worst gauge of this ease of access consideration as I've totally grown up with computers. I miss far fewer topics than most, respond prolifically everywhere on the forum (when I have time). It wouldn't matter where the busy threads were located on the main page (main forum, subforum, up, down, left, right, etc), I don't usually have trouble attending to them...

And again, I need to see serious rebuttal to the fact that, because "ease of access" somehow means that those threads oriented at the top of the page will get the most traffic, we assume that Bakker book threads shouldn't get higher priority on this "ease of access" hierarchy than the other threads that happen here unrelated to the author or his works?

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« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2014, 01:06:17 pm »
Going to have to skip the discussion on ease of access. I never have a problem.

If it really hurts your brain to have general chat above Other Titles then we can move it below, idc. It really is just a matter of using the scroll wheel, so nbd. However, based on how long it took some to discover the Quorum, I'd say for whatever reason things get lost even on the home page. If we move something underneath Other Titles people might easily miss an extra board if it only has 1 main topic. I think if we break it up into its own forums rather than a bunch of subs it will be harder to miss.

I just dont want to change things and have a bunch of topics, that are actively being participated in, fall off the grid because dead boards where given "priority". It probably doesn't matter much either way. Since everyone is on the fence (who has voiced an opinion), I'd be happy to defer.

Site thought: Does a democracy become a dictatorship is no one votes?

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« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2014, 02:16:09 pm »
Site thought: Does a democracy become a dictatorship is no one votes?

Since you are stepping into the role so nicely, do we together make one dictator?

If we move something underneath Other Titles people might easily miss an extra board if it only has 1 main topic. I think if we break it up into its own forums rather than a bunch of subs it will be harder to miss.

I just dont want to change things and have a bunch of topics, that are actively being participated in, fall off the grid because dead boards where given "priority". It probably doesn't matter much either way. Since everyone is on the fence (who has voiced an opinion), I'd be happy to defer.

I actually think since Misc. Chatter and its subforums in General are the most active on the site that they will suffer least from being moved to the bottom of the page.
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« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2014, 02:26:48 pm »
No rebuttal here, but I'll attempt to validate my reasoning.  So, Earwa>General Discussion is a very broad grouping, whereas the Series>Book>Topic format is, by its very nature, more specific, followed by the even more specific Atrocity Tales.  I like to work from broad strokes down to fine details, and this structure fits that mechanic.  Obviously, that's just my preference, so when I called it 'user-friendly' it was more about my user-friendliness, which is what was being asked initially (I think).  So, just my biased opinion.

If we're more talking about logical order, then I agree with Madness.  It absolutely should be the books first, followed by AT, followed by General.

I'm no student of the psychological effects of particular ways to present information, and getting the best benefit from that (i.e., user-friendly).  Either way appeals to some part of my own personal logic mechanisms.

I'm as dissatisfied with my answer as I'm sure anyone who reads this is.  Apologies.
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« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2014, 02:33:59 pm »
Lol, Somnambulist, you missed some of the subtleties of mine and Wilshire's back and forth.

So the proposed order.

General
News/Announcements
-Introduce Yourself

Earwa
General Earwa
Trilogy divisions as they are now
- Book divisions as they are now
Atrocity Tales

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And then the point of further contention between us ;):

Other titles
- Book subforums as they are now

Misc. Chatter
- Subforums from Misc. Chatter as they are now

OR

Misc. Chatter

Other titles

The bold represent the collapsible categories separating the forums.
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« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2014, 03:00:04 pm »
lol walking away.  I'm absolutely not bringing anything to the table here, so I'm more than happy with whatever you decide.
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« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2014, 03:10:13 pm »
Lol - I wonder if when Wilshire and I settle on a decision, I change things, that we get even more feedback then than we do now...
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« Reply #25 on: March 13, 2014, 03:31:25 pm »
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I actually think since Misc. Chatter and its subforums in General are the most active on the site that they will suffer least from being moved to the bottom of the page.

This is a valid point.

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Since you are stepping into the role so nicely, do we together make one dictator?

Probably. But doesn't that make it an oligarchy?


With such low participation its hard to feel bad for them ;).  I'm sure if we royally screw up then we'll get some more feedback.

Do you at least agree that splitting up the current Misc. Chatter into its own forums is an OK idea?
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« Reply #26 on: March 13, 2014, 03:37:11 pm »
Lol - oligarchy.

Yeah, I agree completely that Misc. be split. We're literally debating the one OR point above ;).
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« Reply #27 on: March 13, 2014, 03:47:21 pm »
Lol k just making sure we are debating the same point.

I relent. Move misc. chatter under Other Titles, but we can wait for more votes to be cast.
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« Reply #28 on: March 13, 2014, 03:50:22 pm »
:). I will wait 24 more hours. Then I await the inevitable criticisms ;).

Also, should we call it Misc. Chatter?
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« Reply #29 on: March 13, 2014, 04:01:38 pm »
So many decisions! ... Sure why not? Maybe spell it out? Not like we are confined for space.

If I had a clever title for that section I would have suggested it long ago.
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