Let's talk about the introduction of the WLW (spoilers)

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« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2014, 11:45:03 am »
I wonder if he and Psatma are actual or figurative siblings.

As do I.
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« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2014, 10:41:02 pm »
Was thinking further on this.
I imagine that Yatwer must periodically make certain 'consecrated' followers 'disappear'. 

The text goes to length to show that WLW's when distant ancestor attracted Yatwer's attention.  I assume the Ceneian woman was the first of his ancestors to dwell in Yatwer's realm on the outside and that this is important in Yatwer influencing the destiny of her antecedents.

Although the gods don't experience time in a strictly linear fashion, the WLW is clearly a reaction to Khellus (it would be easier to strike from the outside before he became so powerful).

So maybe Yatwer (and probably the other gods by extension) has 'historical blindspots' (such as entire families killed - minus a usable 'gift') arranged every generation or so, just in case.

Either that, or Yatwer altered the past in her favour through her followers.
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« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2014, 02:39:25 pm »
The Gods basically sound like the most blood-thirsty mafia ever.

Was thinking further on this.
I imagine that Yatwer must periodically make certain 'consecrated' followers 'disappear'. 

The text goes to length to show that WLW's when distant ancestor attracted Yatwer's attention.  I assume the Ceneian woman was the first of his ancestors to dwell in Yatwer's realm on the outside and that this is important in Yatwer influencing the destiny of her antecedents.

Although the gods don't experience time in a strictly linear fashion, the WLW is clearly a reaction to Khellus (it would be easier to strike from the outside before he became so powerful).

So maybe Yatwer (and probably the other gods by extension) has 'historical blindspots' (such as entire families killed - minus a usable 'gift') arranged every generation or so, just in case.

Either that, or Yatwer altered the past in her favour through her followers.

+1 one the post and each of the bolds specifically.
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« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2014, 10:47:02 pm »
Although the gods don't experience time in a strictly linear fashion, the WLW is clearly a reaction to Khellus (it would be easier to strike from the outside before he became so powerful).

Was thinking about what you said--does this mean that all of Ishual is somehow in the gods' blindspot?  It would be built at just the right place!

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« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2014, 12:27:34 pm »
I wonder if Dunyain living correlates with their ensoulled activity having a minimal "Outside footprint."
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« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2014, 02:38:38 am »
I wonder if Dunyain living correlates with their ensoulled activity having a minimal "Outside footprint."
Being so boring so as to be effectively invisible. Maybe this is why Moenghus is exiled. He risked attracting the attention of the Gods.

the WLW is clearly a reaction to Khellus
I really like this statement. Its somewhat obvious, but I seeing it written down was powerful. Interesting to think how a being that doesn't see time as linear would "react" to an event.
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« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2014, 07:48:08 am »
Perhaps they allowed Kellhus to come powerful first so they could murder him as a object lesson.

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« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2014, 01:26:07 pm »
I like that thought, Sharmat.
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« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2014, 09:36:40 pm »
I wonder if Dunyain living correlates with their ensoulled activity having a minimal "Outside footprint."
I wonder if Dunyain living correlates with their ensoulled activity having a minimal "Outside footprint."
Being so boring so as to be effectively invisible. Maybe this is why Moenghus is exiled. He risked attracting the attention of the Gods.

the WLW is clearly a reaction to Khellus
I really like this statement. Its somewhat obvious, but I seeing it written down was powerful. Interesting to think how a being that doesn't see time as linear would "react" to an event.
Being so boring so as to be effectively invisible. Maybe this is why Moenghus is exiled. He risked attracting the attention of the Gods.

the WLW is clearly a reaction to Khellus
I really like this statement. Its somewhat obvious, but I seeing it written down was powerful. Interesting to think how a being that doesn't see time as linear would "react" to an event.

If that's true, Akka and Mimi might never find the Dunyain!  Anyone who finds them would bring the gods' attention, so they are entirely motivated to recede from all attention!  Until...until... they grasp the Absolute and rush onto the stage as the god of gods?

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« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2014, 10:25:38 pm »
If that's true, Akka and Mimi might never find the Dunyain!  Anyone who finds them would bring the gods' attention, so they are entirely motivated to recede from all attention!  Until...until... they grasp the Absolute and rush onto the stage as the god of gods?
Or at least until they burst into the outside, coup d'tat style
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« Reply #25 on: July 01, 2014, 03:41:05 pm »
If anyone ever did seize the Absolute, then perhaps they would be in a position to remain invisible to everyone.