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« on: February 13, 2017, 09:37:33 am »
Anybody else glad that nin'janjin got his revenge at the end and that cujara got 'shafted' so to speak. Like honestly Cujara is kind of the architect of his own race's demise.

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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2017, 12:19:28 pm »
Anybody else glad that nin'janjin got his revenge at the end and that cujara got 'shafted' so to speak. Like honestly Cujara is kind of the architect of his own race's demise.

I'm not sure I'm glad, but both Cû’jara-Cinmoi and Nin’janjin both behaved pretty shortsightedly, both pre-Pir-Pahal and post.

I'm not sure either really got "what they deserved" as such, but Cû’jara-Cinmoi is definitely eminently responsible for the Inchoroi even having a chance of defeating the Nonmen.  In the end though, it's a story of really all-too-human hubris though.  Which is part of the sort of parable that the Nonmen (and Inchoroi) are, as examples of the dangers of Post-Humanism.
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2017, 02:06:04 pm »
Which is part of the sort of parable that the Nonmen (and Inchoroi) are, as examples of the dangers of Post-Humanism.
The path is so narrow.
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2017, 02:42:44 pm »
Which is part of the sort of parable that the Nonmen (and Inchoroi) are, as examples of the dangers of Post-Humanism.
The path is so narrow.

Not to mention, I just watched Arrival with my wife over the weekend.  I think it's pretty safe to say that if there was actually an Arkfall on Earth, what would happen wouldn't be far from what happened on Earwa.
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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2017, 03:48:13 pm »
I'm really hoping that Nin'Janjin shows up in TUC, even if he's completely in the midst of the Dolour and spends all his time staring at the Inverse Fire. 

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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2017, 06:14:46 pm »
I'm really hoping that Nin'Janjin shows up in TUC, even if he's completely in the midst of the Dolour and spends all his time staring at the Inverse Fire.

Especially if the idea that the Inverse Fire might keep the Nonmen somewhat intact.  I'm not sure I buy that, but it would be neat for sure.  I mean, if Nil'Giccas can be alive in the wild, I don't see why Nin'Janjin couldn't be.
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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2017, 06:20:07 pm »
Especially if the idea that the Inverse Fire might keep the Nonmen somewhat intact.  I'm not sure I buy that, but it would be neat for sure.  I mean, if Nil'Giccas can be alive in the wild, I don't see why Nin'Janjin couldn't be.

I've got a whole theory on that.  Will post to a new thread.  :-)

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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2017, 06:21:35 pm »
I've got a whole theory on that.  Will post to a new thread.  :-)

I knew someone did, but I couldn't recall who...
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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2017, 07:37:27 pm »
I've got a whole theory on that.  Will post to a new thread.  :-)

I knew someone did, but I couldn't recall who...

I'm waiting profgrape. :)  I love new theories.
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« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2017, 09:23:17 pm »
Especially if the idea that the Inverse Fire might keep the Nonmen somewhat intact.
I like that idea. Time to parasitize on it! Without measure and in a big way!

1) Fire, as a mundane image, is a dangerous phenomenon because of it's especial capability to damage the skin -- to violate the most physical and visible border between someone's conciousness and the world.
2) Inverse Fire, as an opposition of a said image, flashes out from the deepest chasms of conciousness. But what riverbeds will that "mind magma" flow? Will it burn things like neurons & memories or interaction will be benevolent (remember the whole inversion thing)?
3) I'm betting on "optimising the mind" scenario. Sentient beings with Inverse Fire have no redundancy or inefficiency in their conciousnesses -- that includes things like remorse and empathy or crappy memory system which is prone to overflow with years.

So, that is it. Inverse Fire is just a hotfix for bugs introduced by immortality patch and cunuroi were just so inept at updating.

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« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2017, 03:47:14 pm »
So, that is it. Inverse Fire is just a hotfix for bugs introduced by immortality patch and cunuroi were just so inept at updating.
Love it.
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« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2017, 04:17:24 pm »
I think someone once proposed the possibility of the Inverse Fire as a bootstrap before, but now I can't recall who.
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« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2017, 06:17:41 pm »
Its come up before.
Pretty small step from the erratic's methods of maintaining memory - pain and atrocity - to using a device that shows you the most pain imaginable to force memories to stick around.

Bonus if it actually erases some files, freeing up hard drive space.
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« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2017, 07:04:49 am »
That, or it shows you as Mimara sees you when TJE opens.
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« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2017, 12:32:06 am »
I loved the reveals about Nin'janjin and the Viroi that we got in TGO. Basically the Samurai of Nonmen.

There's also an interesting line somewhere during the Battle of Dagliash in which the Sranc are referred to as "Sons of Nin'Janjin". I wonder if perhaps Nin'janjin was the first specimen the Inchoroi used to crack the Nonman's bios and create the Sranc? Might also be how they learned how to make the first Inoculation for Nin'janjin himself.
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