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False Sun Clarifications request
TaoHorror:
Friends!
Ok, for those of you with empathy for the occasionally ( ok, with me, frequently ) confused, have some questions I couldn't ferret out from previous threads easily.
What's the deal with the Mathesis Pin? Shaeönanra teaches Cet’ingira how to make one and Cet goes on to make a bunch which is what is employed to spring the trap on Titirga? Was Cet near them in the room or was that flashback away from the present confrontation? Gets hazy on that with me. Maybe someone can respond with a kind of short order of events if flashbacks are employed? Out of nowhere the text goes to construction of the Pin and then back to Titirga confronting Shae. Cants of Concussion are used to collapse the floor, so what did the Pin and 6 days of singing had to do with anything?
Just one thing - appears it was Tirtiga's arrogance about his power that did him in, yelling at Shae in lieu of protecting himself, but still seems someone of his might would've been able to react before the Cants completed - guess he couldn't walk into the air or float since that magic is based on the turf below you. He did survive the fall requiring they bury him, but still think he could've done something defense or counter attack - maybe the Cants are too quick or something.
The "celebration" between Cet and Inchoroi was some nasty evil shit! The whole thing so ugly, hard to digest. Coupling sex with violence, goading over those you've rolled is mad stuff.
H:
--- Quote from: TaoHorror on May 17, 2017, 01:38:46 pm ---Friends!
Ok, for those of you with empathy for the occasionally ( ok, with me, frequently ) confused, have some questions I couldn't ferret out from previous threads easily.
What's the deal with the Mathesis Pin? Shaeönanra teaches Cet’ingira how to make one and Cet goes on to make a bunch which is what is employed to spring the trap on Titirga? Was Cet near them in the room or was that flashback away from the present confrontation? Gets hazy on that with me. Maybe someone can respond with a kind of short order of events if flashbacks are employed? Out of nowhere the text goes to construction of the Pin and then back to Titirga confronting Shae. Cants of Concussion are used to collapse the floor, so what did the Pin and 6 days of singing had to do with anything?
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The Pin has nothing to do with the confrontation with Titirga. It's unclear if those interludes (i.e. the text in italics) take place before or after what happens there Nogaral, but certainly the fact that Shae has seen the Inverse Fire means they have already gotten into the Ark and seen the Golden Room points to it being likely that it takes place before.
The point of those interludes are to give you an idea of why Shae is out to kill Titirga, i.e. he has fully given himself over to the Inchoroi (now Consult) view of things, to which Titirga is a definite hindrance.
--- Quote from: TaoHorror on May 17, 2017, 01:38:46 pm ---Just one thing - appears it was Tirtiga's arrogance about his power that did him in, yelling at Shae in lieu of protecting himself, but still seems someone of his might would've been able to react before the Cants completed - guess he couldn't walk into the air or float since that magic is based on the turf below you. He did survive the fall requiring they bury him, but still think he could've done something defense or counter attack - maybe the Cants are too quick or something.
The "celebration" between Cet and Inchoroi was some nasty evil shit! The whole thing so ugly, hard to digest. Coupling sex with violence, goading over those you've rolled is mad stuff.
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Sorcery is very powerful, but it is still somewhat limited. Titiraga's ability to "fly" is limited, as the rest of sorcerers are, to walking on the echos of the ground. No ground, no walking. We are spoiled by Kellhus' power-level, since he can simply teleport anywhere he wants. No one else has ever been able to do that. Certainly though, Titirga's headstrong haughtiness certainly did get him killed. He shouldn't have even been there, really. He walked himself into a trap, probably knowing it would be a trap, but thinking he could defeat it just the same.
And lastly, that's just Aurang being Aurang...
Wilshire:
Mathesis Pin: Created by Shae to break the barricades. This is the end of the MP in this story. This flashback is used to show how Shae ended up chillin' with the Inchoroi, seeing the IF, being converted to their side, and eventually forming the Unholy Consult.
Titirga/Shae Trap: Shae et al dug a big hole and scooby-doo style covered it up with a carpet. Titirga stepped onto the carpet, Shae released some mechanism, Titirga falls to his death. Very slim chance that he was able to survive (recall, I believe TJE, Achamian talks about how many a schoolmen has fallen to their death walking over a hidden ravine). But, given that Titirga is the most power schoolmen, they decided that collapsing a mountain on top of him was a good idea.
Titirga's Demise: Titirga would have overmatched Shae or any other schoolmen in a direct confrontation. Shae played him like a fiddle. Lured Titirga into a trap, got him all fired up, distracted him with an Inchoroi, and literally pulled the rug from under him. Perhaps a cautionary tale for those who seem grossly more powerful than their rivals. Arrogance and ignorance are extreme weaknesses, and can be exploirted by one's enemies.
Aurang/Shae Love affair: Yeah, I mean the Inchies are all about the sexy times. A little of post victory coitous is pretty standard for them.
Hope that helps.
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--- Quote from: Wilshire on May 17, 2017, 02:33:53 pm ---Titirga/Shae Trap: Shae et al dug a big hole and scooby-doo style covered it up with a carpet.
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Minor nit-pick, but the Viritic Well, or as it is referred to in TGO, The Great Well of Viri was already there, since it was the "axel" of the mansion of Viri. But they did build the "carpet" over it, indeed.
Wilshire:
Good clarification Its been a while since I've read it.
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