[TUC Spoilers] Thoughts post-AMA slog/Unholy Consultation thread

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« Reply #45 on: August 04, 2017, 11:28:41 am »
The GTO tactics were good too. But in the end it was the random intervention of Sammie that made the difference. If Sammie didn't show up, the Ordealmen could have beaten the horde and even the scylvendi.
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« Reply #46 on: August 04, 2017, 12:44:05 pm »
I mean...they had a thousand Schoolmen.  Absent the No-God's final ploy we have never seen the team with less schoolmen win.

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« Reply #47 on: August 04, 2017, 02:12:23 pm »
"Kellhus sent Malowebi back to punish the Satakhan for violating his treaty with the New Empire." - RSB Reddit AMA Aug 2017

The Malowebi/Ciphrang sent to kill the Sathakhan was simply a vehicle to get Malowebi as a POV character. Although RSB has been less than truthful (misdirection not malice) in the past, he tends to say RAFO if something may have further significance.

He also later added this when asked if we'd find out what happened with Ciphrang-Malowebi/Malowebi's Head:

Quote from: Bakker
Malowebi will not rest until Likaro is punished for his treachery!
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« Reply #48 on: August 04, 2017, 02:34:29 pm »
"Kellhus sent Malowebi back to punish the Satakhan for violating his treaty with the New Empire." - RSB Reddit AMA Aug 2017

The Malowebi/Ciphrang sent to kill the Sathakhan was simply a vehicle to get Malowebi as a POV character. Although RSB has been less than truthful (misdirection not malice) in the past, he tends to say RAFO if something may have further significance.

He also later added this when asked if we'd find out what happened with Ciphrang-Malowebi/Malowebi's Head:

Quote from: Bakker
Malowebi will not rest until Likaro is punished for his treachery!

Is this a joke i wonder given the many "Curse Likaro"s that we read?

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« Reply #49 on: August 04, 2017, 02:38:35 pm »
I think with Bakker it could go either way.

Likaro is great and Malowebi's a terrible person or we'll experience catharsis on Malowebi's behalf when Ciphrang-Malowebi guts Likaro ;).

EDIT: Though, rooting for Ciphrang-Malowebi is antithetical to humanity's war against the Mutilated. Kellhus really done fucked up there, sending a Ciphrang assassin to fuck up Zeum, one of the last main bastions of resistance.
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« Reply #50 on: August 04, 2017, 03:11:12 pm »
Nah Malowebi forgave Likaro in the golden room when he saw the horns appear.


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« Reply #51 on: August 04, 2017, 03:50:23 pm »
Nah Malowebi forgave Likaro in the golden room when he saw the horns appear.

Ah, right. Still. Fuck Likaro (the character, not the member ;)).
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« Reply #52 on: August 04, 2017, 04:31:10 pm »
Likaro did nothing wrong.

Also the more Bakker feels the need to answer critical questions on reddit instead of in the books the less I like him and this book.

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« Reply #53 on: August 04, 2017, 04:40:53 pm »
Very debatable.  Likaro seems to have been the primary proponent of Zeum not taking Kellhus seriously, which kept their forces out of the disastrous debacle of the Great Ordeal.  If so, he may actually be a hero in terms of his impact on the plausibility of civilization surviving.

I don't understand why you are reading the AMA if you like it less than the book with mysteries intact.  Seems like you should stop visiting those threads/boards and enjoy the book the way you prefer.

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« Reply #54 on: August 04, 2017, 04:48:05 pm »
I am always late to these things. I wanted to ask what Shattered the God in the first place. Though I imagine that one will be eternally unknowable.
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« Reply #55 on: August 04, 2017, 05:04:16 pm »
I am always late to these things. I wanted to ask what Shattered the God in the first place. Though I imagine that one will be eternally unknowable.
We have this answer from here:
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no, the Nonmen didn't shatter God, God did.

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« Reply #56 on: August 04, 2017, 05:39:07 pm »
Likaro did nothing wrong.

Also the more Bakker feels the need to answer critical questions on reddit instead of in the books the less I like him and this book.

lel why

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« Reply #57 on: August 04, 2017, 05:41:13 pm »
There was nothing else around when the God was unshattered TO shatter it, right?  It is a whodunnit with only one suspect.

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« Reply #58 on: August 04, 2017, 05:48:48 pm »
it's clear as day the God shattering is none other than the creation of reality/subject-object/consciousness, to this day I have no idea how people think it's as banal and uninspired as "nonmen did it"

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« Reply #59 on: August 04, 2017, 05:58:41 pm »
Regarding Aurang's laser antics, using a longdistance weapon is nice, but apparently not sufficient. However, was it Aurang that wielded that laser? Wasn't it an Erratic or another?

Sure an Erratic was the triggerman, but it was apparent to me the Horde-General was running that part of the show.