Cu'jara/Ku'jara?

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« on: August 16, 2017, 10:56:12 pm »
Why, in the Appendix listing for Ishterebinth, is Cu'jara Cinmoi's name spelled Ku'jara Kinmoi?

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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2017, 11:02:30 pm »
Why, in the Appendix listing for Ishterebinth, is Cu'jara Cinmoi's name spelled Ku'jara Kinmoi?

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You know, reasons.  Or raysons.  Or raisonnes.
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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2017, 11:04:54 pm »
Why, in the Appendix listing for Ishterebinth, is Cu'jara Cinmoi's name spelled Ku'jara Kinmoi?

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You know, reasons.  Or raysons.  Or raisonnes.

Actually, it's raisins.
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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2017, 11:08:02 pm »
Why, in the Appendix listing for Ishterebinth, is Cu'jara Cinmoi's name spelled Ku'jara Kinmoi?

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It's either a mistake or an alternate spelling like Celmomas/Kelmomas. "Nau-Cayűti" is also spelled as "Nau-Kayűti" at one point.
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« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2017, 11:14:46 pm »
I liked my answer better, but you should probably listen to ThoughtsOfThelli.
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« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2017, 11:19:03 pm »
I liked my answer better, but you should probably listen to ThoughtsOfThelli.

Well, the "raisins" idea had merit. ;)
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« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2017, 08:42:48 am »
Because the EG is intended to be an in-universe artefact, the work of Earwan scholars.
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« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2017, 09:19:59 am »
Because the EG is intended to be an in-universe artefact, the work of Earwan scholars.

well i guess the 2nd apocalypse will be averted because for the contents of the EG to have been written, it would have been after the 2nd apocalypse in order for the writers to know about resumption and other stuff

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« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2017, 09:24:56 am »
well i guess the 2nd apocalypse will be averted because for the contents of the EG to have been written, it would have been after the 2nd apocalypse in order for the writers to know about resumption and other stuff
A point I have made before. Although I think 'averted' is too strong a term. The chroniclers writing the EG might simply be members of the 144,000...
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« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2017, 10:09:14 am »
A point is made that most scholars transliterate names into Sheyic, thus leaving giving us both the original spellilng and names and the Sheyic spellings.

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« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2017, 03:07:40 pm »
A point is made that most scholars transliterate names into Sheyic, thus leaving giving us both the original spellilng and names and the Sheyic spellings.

And isn't the introduction to both Glossary explicit that these are the names as Drusas Achamian knew them (badly paraphrasing)?
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« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2017, 08:18:49 pm »
And isn't the introduction to both Glossary explicit that these are the names as Drusas Achamian knew them (badly paraphrasing)?

I think so, yes.

Though I don't remember as many cases of variant spellings with Cs and Ks being used in the TTT glossary...
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« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2017, 10:48:54 am »
It's really just a revision error.  I recall Bakker having said that at some point, he changed many things from having K's to C's.

At one point in the books Nil'giccas is spelled Nil'gikkas, but just for one paragraph.

But it's fine to write them off as another case of "unreliable glossary," because it is after all.
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« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2017, 03:27:27 pm »
It's probably also a product of the way Bakker has spent so damn long working on this stuff. I have notes going back over twenty years about my own created worlds (mostly settings for various RPG games I've GMed, but also background for my Warhammer and 40K armies, aborted novels and various short fiction pieces in various stages of deshabille), and there are several characters and locations with half a dozen or so variant spellings each, or even completely different names for what's clearly meant to be the same person or place, wildly inconsistent dating systems (one particular world has two timelines - one a couple of thousand years long, the other with pretty much the exact same history spread over tens of thousands of years). Any fictional setting it takes an author more than a few years to construct is going to be a frankly insane mess, is what I'm saying. Bakker has done a fantastic job of keeping it all as consistent as he has, I think.
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« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2017, 04:32:12 pm »
Because the EG is intended to be an in-universe artefact, the work of Earwan scholars.

well i guess the 2nd apocalypse will be averted because for the contents of the EG to have been written, it would have been after the 2nd apocalypse in order for the writers to know about resumption and other stuff

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