[TUC Spoilers] Serwa's "promotion" and the Biaxi Patridomos

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« on: March 26, 2018, 11:46:59 am »
Serwa's "promotion":
I've noticed that in TUC, Serwa starts being referred to as "Exalt-Magus" sometime after her return to the Ordeal. Before that, Saccarees was the one who appeared to hold that title (going by mentions in TGO).
Does this mean Serwa was the Exalt-Magus all along and Saccarees replaced her in her absence? It doesn't seem so in TJE and TWLW, as her only title in those books (aside from Princess-Imperial, of course) seems to be Grandmistress of the Swayali.
(Not going to add any quotes here, as it doesn't seem necessary, there are quite a few mentions of the Exalt-Magus title anyway...)


Patridomos of House Biaxi:
This was something I noticed while working on the character list (the Serwa thing had been noticed before, just kept forgetting about it). The glossary entries both refer to Sankas and Tarpellas as Patridomos of House Biaxi:
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Sankas, Biaxi (4066-4132)-The Patridomos of House Biaxi, and confidant of Anasūrimbor Esmenet. Granted Consulship of Nansur after the arrest of Cutias Pansulla in 4132. Found murdered in the Andiamine Heights the autumn of that same year.
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Tarpellas, Biaxi (4101-)-Ordealman, Patridomos of House Biaxi, General of the Nansur contingent of the Great Ordeal of Anasūrimbor Kellhus.
Well, this might make sense, maybe Tarpellas succeeded Sankas (the fact of Sankas' death being known through Kellhus or the like). The ages make it possible that Tarpellas was Sankas' son (despite the fact that it was never actually stated what their family relationship was). Tarpellas could still be next in line regardless of family relationship.
The problem with this is that Tarpellas is referred as the Patridomos of House Biaxi in chapter 2 of TWLW (spring of 4132), months before Sankas' death:
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They consisted of the disciplined Nansur under the young General Biaxi Tarpellas, Patridomos of House Biaxi, a shrewd tactician
Do you all think we might have a slight inconsistency here? Apart from this line, everything could make sense if you assumed Tarpellas had succeeded Sankas as Patridomos.
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« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2018, 08:57:24 pm »
This might be a stupid question but, can a house have 2 patri-thingies?

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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2018, 10:13:23 pm »
This might be a stupid question but, can a house have 2 patri-thingies?

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It's not a stupid question, since it was never explained in detail in the series...
But I would guess not, as all information we have points to a Patridomos of a noble House being the male head of that House, and so there would only be one at any given time. For instance, Sompas from PON was said to be the son of the Biaxi Patridomos at that time (presumably Sankas succeeded Sompas' father). Up until Sankas' death, there should be no reason for someone else to be the Biaxi Patridomos.
"But you’ve simply made the discovery that Thelli made—only without the benefit of her unerring sense of fashion."
-Anasūrimbor Kayūtas (The Great Ordeal, chapter 13)

"You prefer to believe women victims to their passions, but we can be at least as calculating as you. Love does not make us weak, but strong."
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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2018, 11:03:49 pm »
This might be a stupid question but, can a house have 2 patri-thingies?

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It's not a stupid question, since it was never explained in detail in the series...
But I would guess not, as all information we have points to a Patridomos of a noble House being the male head of that House, and so there would only be one at any given time. For instance, Sompas from PON was said to be the son of the Biaxi Patridomos at that time (presumably Sankas succeeded Sompas' father). Up until Sankas' death, there should be no reason for someone else to be the Biaxi Patridomos.
I see. Thanks!
Then the short of it seems to be that it's an inconsistency in the author's part.
Otherwise it could be an example of conflicting sources/unreliable historians.
Or something the absent editor should have caught.

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