Mistakes and things that piss off in the series

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« Reply #30 on: September 06, 2017, 09:35:06 pm »
Which means we can make stuff up about it  :D
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« Reply #31 on: September 06, 2017, 09:38:34 pm »
Even to the point that some of the Mutilated may have been seen in the opening of TDTCB, though I'll have to dig for that exact quote later.
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« Reply #32 on: September 06, 2017, 09:52:26 pm »
Wait, how do the Dûnyain even make their super awesome swords? Do they have their own super localized mining operation set up, or the most efficient recycling program in history?

I admit, every time I ask a question about the Dûnyain I think of 10 more about the logistics of their whole operation.
Where does it discuss the idea that they made swords?

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« Reply #33 on: September 06, 2017, 11:54:34 pm »
It doesn't. But, when Kellhus leaves Ishual he has a sword. And, in flashbacks they show their training in the yard with the old man. So, they've got swords. How many? Where from? Your guess as good as any. But, again,  Bakker said they were self sufficient.
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« Reply #34 on: September 07, 2017, 01:52:28 am »
In the darkness that comes before Kellhus' battle with Mekertrig, it sez "dunyain steel".
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« Reply #35 on: September 07, 2017, 04:47:10 am »
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Wait, how do the Dûnyain even make their super awesome swords? Do they have their own super localized mining operation set up, or the most efficient recycling program in history?

I admit, every time I ask a question about the Dûnyain I think of 10 more about the logistics of their whole operation.

Bakker said in the Q&A after TGO that he had a whole section about the ins and outs of the Dunyain that he never did put in the books or get into because it's not part of the story. Ishual was self sufficient and that's all you need to know really.

Well, booooo. Most people on this board wonder about the real identity and meaning of various characters, I wonder "How do the Dunyain make candles?"

(Wait, scratch that, I just thought about it and now I don't want to know that answer)

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« Reply #36 on: September 07, 2017, 05:39:58 am »
I wasnt meaning to ruin your spirits or theorizing, go for it. Its open to your own interpretation. I was just giving the answer he already have on the exact question. Well, I tried to find the link, but couldn't. :summon Madness:
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« Reply #37 on: September 07, 2017, 06:19:01 am »
Oh no worries, you didn't ruin anything. It's nice to have somewhere to muse over these things.

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« Reply #38 on: September 07, 2017, 11:20:26 am »
"How do the Dunyain make candles?"
(Wait, scratch that, I just thought about it and now I don't want to know that answer)
... They keep bees, obviously.

Human tallow makes terrible candles, BTW. It's really not worth the effort.
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« Reply #39 on: September 07, 2017, 12:21:32 pm »
It doesn't. But, when Kellhus leaves Ishual he has a sword. And, in flashbacks they show their training in the yard with the old man. So, they've got swords. How many? Where from? Your guess as good as any. But, again,  Bakker said they were self sufficient.
Ah. Well, given there were a number of refugees directly from the Anasurimbor household, I think it stands to reason the Dunyain might have managed to salvage possibly enscrolled weaponry from them or the armory. Would be less of a stretch than forging.

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« Reply #40 on: September 07, 2017, 12:24:54 pm »
I agree. On the thought that their enscrolled weaponry, I thought the same when Kellhus uses Enshoiya to make Malowebi demon/ciphrang and preserve the head. Had to be.
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« Reply #41 on: September 07, 2017, 01:23:12 pm »
"How do the Dunyain make candles?"
(Wait, scratch that, I just thought about it and now I don't want to know that answer)
... They keep bees, obviously.

Human tallow makes terrible candles, BTW. It's really not worth the effort.

And you know this, how? LOL

I'm sure it's said somewhere, but the tunnels of Ishual - those made by non-men, Dunyain or both? Even for 2,000 years, that would require serious labor.
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« Reply #42 on: September 07, 2017, 01:58:57 pm »
Dunyain made them the tunnels follow some mathematical formula.

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« Reply #43 on: September 08, 2017, 02:14:44 am »
Even to the point that some of the Mutilated may have been seen in the opening of TDTCB, though I'll have to dig for that exact quote later.

Did we see any of the Mutilated in previous books?

Not that I recall, no. I feel muddy on this simply because the original beginning of TDTCB featured a lot more facetime with the brethren.

There are also quotes regarding the bee-keeping, the self-sufficiency, and tunnels... but I'll have to do that later...
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« Reply #44 on: September 08, 2017, 10:13:41 am »
It doesn't. But, when Kellhus leaves Ishual he has a sword. And, in flashbacks they show their training in the yard with the old man. So, they've got swords. How many? Where from? Your guess as good as any. But, again,  Bakker said they were self sufficient.
Ah. Well, given there were a number of refugees directly from the Anasurimbor household, I think it stands to reason the Dunyain might have managed to salvage possibly enscrolled weaponry from them or the armory. Would be less of a stretch than forging.

I don't remember any survivor from the Anasurimbor household when the first dûnyain came (in the prologue of TDTCB). Only the Anasurimbor boy. But maybe I'm wrong.

Anyway it's very difficult to maintain an isolated community like Ishual in full splendor if the Dûnyain were few. I'm assuming that they were like a big community of monks, like some monasteries in Middle Ages.
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