Möenghus The Younger. Consult or Humanity?

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« on: September 02, 2017, 03:04:16 pm »
My personal theory from the Quorum: The Sclyvendi will side with The Consult to give us a PoV from inside The Consult. And maybe some of my new favourite characters, The Mutilated! The reason is that surly The Sclyvendi will not go against their God, to honour tradition at least. Moe however, will probably be much conflicted but I don't see much choice for him. Maybe he will betray the Consult later, but at the beginning, you can't save a whole army from the Horde 2.0 ( And after seeing Cnaiür shredded, I don't think the chieftains will keep their word.Though I think Cnaiür Ciphrang will do some shit. ) And besides, DON'T YOU WANT A CONSTANT POV THAT'S INSIDE THE CONSULT ??!
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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2017, 07:18:05 pm »
They don't necessarily see Cnaiur get sandblasted. They just see him walking into the Whirlwind. Dollars to donuts most Scylvendi will assume the Most Violent Of All Men actually became/awakened the reborn Lokung.
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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2017, 07:42:39 pm »
I want a Consult POV, but I'm not sure that this will be the case.
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« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2017, 07:46:08 pm »
Dollars to donuts most Scylvendi will assume the Most Violent Of All Men actually became/awakened the reborn Lokung.

+1

I want a Consult POV, but I'm not sure that this will be the case.

Maybe that's the twist ;).

TNG might strictly be Mutilated POVs fighting the *good* fight against all those pesky surviving Earwans.
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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2017, 07:49:24 pm »
TNG might strictly be Mutilated POVs fighting the *good* fight against all those pesky surviving Earwans.

Mutilated FTW.
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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2017, 03:34:39 pm »
Great thread Redeagl! Can't believe I've missed this.

I think Lil Moe will ultimately take the side of humanity. He seen that the People were to be sacrificed to the Sranc. This is definitely a huge selling point to the People. One problem, he is not truly of the People and Cnaüir didn't to a whole lot to give him command or the right to lead. But, ultimately, I feel the people will feel betrayed and try and defeat TNG.
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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2018, 07:18:44 pm »
Moenghus Jr. became one of my favorite characters as TAE went on and especially with TUC when we get his POV (and especially since so many other characters are now dead).

I feel relatively certain Moe will be "for the Consult" given the somewhat heavy foreshadowing (as far as RSB goes) of the Shroud forming a halo around his head, but it could really go either way. I do think that if he's "for the Consult" it will be for his own reasons, and I also can't see Moe sticking with them if/when he learns they're being run by a bunch of Dunyain.

My ideal scenario I guess is Moe leading the Scylvendi against "the good guys" for most of TNG with a redemptive heel turn at the end. I actually think Moe Jr could in some way be a part of Moenghus Sr's posthumous planning/conditioning of events via Cnaiur -- possibly laying seeds early on to ensure (or at least make viable) a scenario where the Scylvendi don't align with the Consult this time around.

Ultimately I'm split because I really like Moe and want him not have a horribly depressing ending, but I also REALLY want battles with Men vs Men in TNG, cuz Sranc/Bashrag hordes kinda got old for me even before we got to TUC, and unless some surprise faction ends up working with the Consult (Zeum?) then I can't see too much human in-fighting being plausible on a large scale given that it's the damn apocalypse.

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« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2018, 05:50:15 pm »
I completely missed that part about the shroud forming a Halo aroung Moënghus' head. I've re-read certain chapters many times but I still need to re-read the book as a whole.

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« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2018, 09:19:29 pm »
I completely missed that part about the shroud forming a Halo aroung Moënghus' head. I've re-read certain chapters many times but I still need to re-read the book as a whole.

I believe it occurs during the Cnaiur/Proyas/Moe confrontation, but I'm not 100%.

And yeah, there's still so much stuff I'm finding with TUC, even in conjunction with the earlier books. For example I somehow had no idea that the bit with Cnaiur dreaming of the pool and the worm was not a brand new sequence, but goes all the way back to the first damn book. Crazy stuff lol.