[TUC Spoiler] The Ciphrang

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« Reply #30 on: October 05, 2017, 11:43:26 am »
My impression is that Moe has become burning meat.  Moe isn't wearing much in the way of clothes and "sagging" isn't the way you describe a robe around a vanishing body.  It's possible that the more powerful Cishaurim are actually gibbed by the Chorae, but it seems we get massive tissue trauma and burning when Chorae hits a Psukharim.  There's a some wiggle room for interpretation, but there's clearly some burning and the remnants of a body left.

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« Reply #31 on: October 05, 2017, 04:31:42 pm »
Hmm... very interesting. Even then, we should ask why Chorae would burn rather than Salt a Cishaurim.

Oh, and also, on this note, why did the kipfa’aifan burn when Nannaferi touched it in WLW?
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« Reply #32 on: October 05, 2017, 10:08:55 pm »
Hmm... very interesting. Even then, we should ask why Chorae would burn rather than Salt a Cishaurim.

Chorae are products of the Aporos, which is to say language based sorcery where meaning is of crucial importance.  Cishaurim don't die in quite the same way as sorcerers because the Psukhe isn't quite sorcery, but its so very close to sorcery that interaction with the Chorae produce similar but not identical effects.

As for Nannaferi, she seems to be a walking pinhole in the veil between the World and the Outside through which Yawter can pour some of her power.  That might not be a terribly accurate metaphor because we don't have really bright and well educated characters giving detailed discourses on this subject, backed by millennia of scholarly works at this point in the series but since Mimara is a viewpoint character and she is likely to be around Akka, we may get this in the No-God.  The book is scorched in the same manner as Nannaferi grows young, she receives premonitions of the future, and Meppa is healed.  Yawter acts through her, changing the world without sorcery. 

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« Reply #33 on: October 06, 2017, 02:06:29 am »
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I always appreciated Duskweaver's thaumaturgy designation.
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« Reply #34 on: July 22, 2019, 05:59:40 pm »
Salt has weight. Put a 100 pound sack of salt in heavy robes and it'll drop 'like a sodden flag'. (unlike, I'd imagine, a discorporated raptured body which would simply cease to exist)

A body slowly turning into salt would definitely begin to sag, especially if the salking took place front the back. As the back musles lost their anchor points to salting skeleton/ligaments/musles, it would sag.

Cish salt.

Lol, as I've maintained for years now - though I expect to be disappointed inevitably given Bakker's comments at Zaudunyanicon about Fane having one of the most wrong interpretations of Earwa's reality - none of the three Cishaurim, killed by Chorae on page, explicitly Salt.

What seems to happen to them seems more akin to the idea of Rapture... neatly folded robes on the ground as the corporeal body returns to the Source ;).
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