Elon Musk: The Architect of Tomorrow

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« on: November 21, 2017, 03:15:10 pm »
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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2018, 02:49:13 pm »
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« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2018, 04:01:25 pm »
It's me, Dave, open up, I've got the stuff

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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2018, 05:04:43 pm »
Either/or?

You forget that my experience of life unfolds as one long acid-trip. I find many things mostly absurd for their inherent conceit to presume to be.

If you're horrified and you like it, please continue.
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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2018, 05:29:14 pm »
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You forget that my experience of life unfolds as one long acid-trip.

You being serious here? I've just read some articles were a lot of programmers and such in the Silicon Valley are experimenting with micro-dosing with acid. The theory being that if you take a tiny amount, you get the creative juices flowing without all of the (what I perceive as negative..I hate hallucinagenes) negative side effects.

So, I'm be I g serious when I ask you if you really are on acid all the time, and if so, what's your dosage? Or, was it just a turn of phrase?
“No. I am your end. Before your eyes I will put your seed to the knife. I will quarter your carcass and feed it to the dogs. Your bones I will grind to dust and cast to the winds. I will strike down those who speak your name or the name of your fathers, until ‘Yursalka’ becomes as meaningless as infant babble. I will blot you out, hunt down your every trace! The track of your life has come to me,

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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2018, 05:56:18 pm »
Lmao.

I'm definitely not on acid all the time (I do have vices and have done hallucinogens). On thought, I've also encountered quite the robust culture that advocates microdosing mushrooms.

Flowery language aside - and I'm sure this has come up before in my expression over the years around the forum - I find all existence equally absurd, especially the various ways we human animals prioritize, and also cling to, the "beliefs" we hold over basic compassion for those creatures we happen to find ourselves stranded here with.
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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2018, 03:02:48 pm »
Flowery language aside - and I'm sure this has come up before in my expression over the years around the forum - I find all existence equally absurd, especially the various ways we human animals prioritize, and also cling to, the "beliefs" we hold over basic compassion for those creatures we happen to find ourselves stranded here with.

Does that absurdity you surmise a result of your perceived insight or lack of understanding of what is going on?
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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2018, 03:14:14 pm »
Flowery language aside - and I'm sure this has come up before in my expression over the years around the forum - I find all existence equally absurd, especially the various ways we human animals prioritize, and also cling to, the "beliefs" we hold over basic compassion for those creatures we happen to find ourselves stranded here with.

Does that absurdity you surmise a result of your perceived insight or lack of understanding of what is going on?

Also, isn't compassion a belief with the same status as other beliefs?
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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2018, 11:48:00 pm »
Elucidating Madness...

Does that absurdity you surmise a result of your perceived insight or lack of understanding of what is going on?

I'm not sure I understand your question?

Also, isn't compassion a belief with the same status as other beliefs?

especially the various ways we human animals prioritize, and also cling to, the "beliefs" we hold over basic compassion for those creatures we happen to find ourselves stranded here with.
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« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2018, 12:00:19 am »
Are you objecting to the idea that basic compassion is not a higher priority?
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« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2018, 12:02:22 am »
Are you objecting to the idea that basic compassion is not a higher priority?

I'm not sure I understand the question.
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« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2018, 12:30:05 am »
Perhaps if you could restate what it is you find absurd. I don't understand why you find my questions difficult. If you prioritize X, Y, and Z over C, my first question was, "Does C belong with X, Y, or Z?" My second question was, "Should C be a higher priority than X, Y, or Z?"

What I'm saying is compassion is a belief like any other.
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« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2018, 12:41:35 am »
I find all experience absurd.

"Does C belong with X, Y, or Z?"

Maybe? We'd have to spend more words operationalizing "compassion" (C?) and "X, Y, and Z" in our conversation.

My second question was, "Should C be a higher priority than X, Y, or Z?"

Yes? We've had versions of this conversation before. I don't care what you believe, I care how you act because of your commitment to those beliefs.
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« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2018, 03:49:55 am »
Madness! You are an equation, sir! Any time you are challenged and "caught" you hide behind defensive equivocation. STAND UP and face your error and change so you can release yourself from standing in the corner.

Just messing with you, brother. On that note - I still don't "get" why you find all experience absurd. You don't have to explain it if you don't want to - but if you're interested in being understood on this point, can you walk me through it?
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« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2018, 04:17:18 pm »
Madness! You are an equation, sir! Any time you are challenged and "caught" you hide behind defensive equivocation.

Is that the case?

STAND UP and face your error and change so you can release yourself from standing in the corner.

Uh...

Just messing with you, brother. On that note - I still don't "get" why you find all experience absurd. You don't have to explain it if you don't want to - but if you're interested in being understood on this point, can you walk me through it?

Absurdity abounds? Life, experience, existence just has never had enduring and stable qualities to me. Or rather I've never perceived very many enduring and stable qualities. And even then... it's absurd that we should expect enduring or stable qualities.

Back to your first question:

Does that absurdity you surmise a result of your perceived insight or lack of understanding of what is going on?

The bold has something like three or four Tao specific connotations therein that I can't possibly understand without context on your part. You'd have to unpack that latter portion for me before I can even try to give you a coherent answer.
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